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General discussion => Tutorials => Gunmaking tools and techniques- woodworking => Topic started by: Ken G on January 13, 2009, 02:22:57 AM

Title: Inletting a Banana Patchbox
Post by: Ken G on January 13, 2009, 02:22:57 AM
To go with the tutorial on making a spring I thought I would add the rest of the pictures I took while inletting a banana Patchbox. 

I'll come back and add some pics of getting the curve to the box.
Once you have the lid curve right and the curve matches the stock.  Screw the box down where you want it.  I use a #11 exacto blade to trace around the lid.
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi7.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy298%2FPackdog1%2FTNPatchbox%2FPatchboxTN14.jpg&hash=c04ca9e8dd6b8311a90d59c53de03bf20f02ad18)

Inlet the part that attaches to the stock first.
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/Packdog1/TNPatchbox/PatchboxTN18.jpg)

Once you have the forward part inlet you can inlet the rear portion. 
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/Packdog1/TNPatchbox/PatchboxTN21.jpg)

Using a Forstner bit of the appropriate size you can take out big chunks of wood.  Be careful to drill straight down and keep a even space on either side.
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/Packdog1/TNPatchbox/PatchboxTN23-1.jpg)

(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/Packdog1/TNPatchbox/PatchboxTN26-1.jpg)

Clean the sides up and scrape the bottom smooth and you are finished.
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/Packdog1/TNPatchbox/PatchboxTN8.jpg)
Title: Re: Inletting a Banana Patchbox
Post by: Ed Wenger on January 13, 2009, 04:37:55 AM
Very nice start Ken and thanks for the pics!  I'm looking forward to the rest of your posts...

Ed
Title: Re: Inletting a Banana Patchbox
Post by: Evil Monkey on January 13, 2009, 06:20:14 AM
OK,
Title: Re: Inletting a Banana Patchbox
Post by: B Shipman on January 13, 2009, 08:20:03 AM
That's how it's done, plain or fancy. Fix he head with screws or nails. Trace around the head. Some use pencil, some use a pointed blade. Cut to the line. Cut and try. Bevel your parts first.
Title: Re: Inletting a Banana Patchbox
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on January 13, 2009, 08:32:32 AM
Great demo Ken.

I've a question about butt plates like yours if I may...I've only made one using sheet stock and joining at the heel.  And I joined mine by butting the return against the plate so that the seam shows on the side.  Question:  Do you know if they were done both ways, or is mine incorrect.?
Title: Re: Inletting a Banana Patchbox
Post by: Ken G on January 13, 2009, 06:25:18 PM
Taylor,
Your method is correct and the most common method that I have seen for fitting the two pieces of a buttplate together. 
The way my plate is fitted (notched) is found sometimes on rifles made in the Soddy-Daisy area.  You will also see the ones fitted like mine that are not brazed or welded.  Maybe with a rivet holding them or nothing at all attaching the two pieces together and they are inlet as seperate pieces. 

Cheers,
Ken
Title: Re: Inletting a Banana Patchbox
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on January 13, 2009, 08:02:15 PM
Interesting stuff.  Thanks for the reply Ken.
Title: Re: Inletting a Banana Patchbox
Post by: J.D. on January 13, 2009, 09:30:23 PM
Quote from: Evil Monkey on January 13, 2009, 06:20:14 AM
OK, so that's how you inlet a patchbox, now show us how you inlet a banana!

I don't care who ya are, that there is funny.  ;D

And an informative thread.

Thanks, and God Bless,
J.D.
Title: Re: Inletting a Banana Patchbox
Post by: J. Talbert on January 14, 2009, 04:46:32 AM
I'll show my ignorance here...

I'd never heard the term Soddy-Daisy until I read it on this site.  I've surmised that it refers to certain southern iron mounted guns, but I've not been able to pin it down.

What's the origin of the term, and just what specific type guns does it refer to?

I can't be the only one out here wondering.

Thanks,
Jeff
Title: Re: Inletting a Banana Patchbox
Post by: Ken G on January 14, 2009, 05:58:52 AM

Hi Jeff.  No ignorance.  Unless you happen to live in TN or done a lot of studying on TN rifles, I don't imagine it would make sense.  Soddy-Daisy is a town about 20 minutes north of Chattanooga.  While guns from this area share a lot of traits with E. TN rifles they have some pretty distinctive characteristics.  While upper E. TN guns tend to have long tangs that change widths a couple of times and may go up and over the comb.  Soddy guns have a long straight strap that terminates at the comb.  Soddy guns also have diamond shape to the butt rather than a rounded shape.  The buttplates have a comb that extends much further down stock than upper E. TN.  They have a pretty recognizable shape to the cheekpiece if they have one at all.  There are other smaller differences but those are the big ones.  There is an exceptional example of a Soddy rifle in the library.  It is listed as Soddy Daisy.  I hope that helps some. 

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Title: Re: Inletting a Banana Patchbox
Post by: J. Talbert on January 14, 2009, 07:38:46 AM
Ken,

Thanks Much!

Jeff
Title: Re: Inletting a Banana Patchbox
Post by: T*O*F on January 14, 2009, 05:46:27 PM
Quote
now show us how you inlet a banana!
Cody
If you've got a BaNa2 that needs inletting, let us know.
We'll be happy to tell you what to do with it.

Title: Re: Inletting a Banana Patchbox
Post by: Carper on January 15, 2009, 02:26:26 AM
Your getting too good!!  Next time try to inlett one of the boxes that the maker couldnt decide if it was to have any curvature or be flat and just left the hinge flat but curved the two  lids.  You know the ones that I am talking about.   I saw an old Honaker that was built around here in the 1900's that had a iron box with one end shaped like a horse head. If I can get a picture of it, I send it to you.  BTW the almost 90 degree comb to wrist on your rifle looks great too.   Johnny
Title: Re: Inletting a Banana Patchbox
Post by: timM on January 15, 2009, 03:25:38 AM
Ken,....I would really like to see more of this particular build as you get a chance.  I have really enjoyed your tutorials. Thank you.  tim