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Title: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: Eric Smith on April 20, 2017, 10:55:38 PM
It has come to my mind that I have avoided building something to secure a trigger guard with for far too long.Just getting by is not good enough any more. I have seen such devices posted here before, the kind you can then clamp into a machinists vice, but not for some time, and I can't really remember the details clearly. What have you all come up with?
Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: Tim Crosby on April 20, 2017, 11:44:09 PM
 David Rase makes the neatest one I have ever seen, I'm sure he will see this and reply.

  Tim C.
Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: BOB HILL on April 21, 2017, 01:41:04 AM
I agree with Tim. The fixture that David makes is great. It's much more convenient than the homemade rigs I used for years. You will be very pleased with it.      Bob
Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: eddillon on April 21, 2017, 02:41:22 AM
David Rase makes the neatest one I have ever seen, I'm sure he will see this and reply.

  Tim C.
I second what Tim said.  Typical great David Rase quality.
Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: Bill Raby on April 21, 2017, 03:37:49 AM
   I tried using something rigged up to fit in a vise and tossed it after about 5 minutes. Its locked into one place. Yuk! I have a jewelers workbench with a bench pin mounted in it. Carve a few notches in the bench pin and it works perfect. That is the standard way that jewelers have worked on rings and such for about 1000 years. You can hold small things secure in your hand and move them around as you work on them. I would not even think of cleaning up a trigger guard casting any other way. Flip it upside and it is perfect for work you would do with a jewelers saw.

https://www.riogrande.com/Product/Bench-Pin-with-Metal-Holder/110011

   Screw it to the front of your work bench and it is ready to go. GRS makes a great setup. You just mount a flat plate to your work bench and the bench pin is easily removable. You can switch it out for a number of the other tools that they make. Pretty expensive and geared a lot more towards jewelers than gun makers but it is a great system.
Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: Ky-Flinter on April 21, 2017, 03:35:05 PM
Here's a link to David Rase's trigger guard vise.... http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=38101.msg367085#msg367085

-Ron
Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: Stoner creek on April 21, 2017, 03:55:17 PM
Rase's rig is great. I don't know how I did all that clean up and file work before it came along.
Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on April 21, 2017, 06:42:11 PM
I made mine out of three sheets of 1/8" thick brass.  These images should explain its construction and use.


(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2FjJC7rQ%2FDSCN6535.jpg&hash=06282ce5e558a5ff66026e08072d1da3e02b1be4) (http://ibb.co/jAU95k)

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Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: Eric Smith on April 22, 2017, 06:15:53 PM
Thanks for the help. I'll get started on one soon.
Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: Pennsylvania Dutchman on April 22, 2017, 07:54:30 PM
Here is the trigger guard vise I made, an adaptation of the vise in Peter Alexander's book.
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2FkRapqk%2FDSC03494_640x480.jpg&hash=c51c2e0d0e5bfa93e2c6fd5c8c130b082cdfbb73) (http://imgbb.com/)

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(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2Fc7HfwQ%2FDSC03497_479x640.jpg&hash=9f09e911b4fee2e2fa933f161c4ed76cb9edc664) (http://ibb.co/ndGvVk)

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Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: Ky-Flinter on April 22, 2017, 08:31:52 PM
Nice looking tooling fellows.  Seems there's several ways to skin a cat.

-Ron
Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: David Rase on April 22, 2017, 09:26:20 PM
Nice looking tooling fellows.  Seems there's several ways to skin a cat.

-Ron
That is true, but my design is the only one that allows you to rotate the T/G 360 degrees while maintaining the same plane and never having to remove the fixture from the vise.
Here is the link to see my fixture.  http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=38101.0
In fact, in that thread I encouraged readers to make their own.  I even provided specifics.
David
Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: SingleMalt on April 23, 2017, 12:11:29 AM
I want one, David!
Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: BadDaditood on April 23, 2017, 07:04:47 AM
i wanted one too, so i made one.  8)  under $5 for the steel, 2 bolts and 4 screws might have pushed it over $6...

oh my, this hobby is going to ruin me  :o
Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: WadePatton on April 23, 2017, 09:44:59 PM
i wanted one too, so i made one.  8)  under $5 for the steel, 2 bolts and 4 screws might have pushed it over $6...

oh my, this hobby is going to ruin me  :o

I wasn't so extravagant,  screwed mine to pegs glued into a bit of 2x4.   Everything from the shop floor...

Maybe now is time to do nicer. Bad influences we got here.
Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: WKevinD on April 23, 2017, 10:33:07 PM
Davids fixture is just too easy to use and it's adjustable to almost any guard with casting sprues or mounting tabs. Saves a lot of screwing around and making do with stuff that's almost goodnuff. Make it or buy it.
Kevin
Title: Re: Trigger Guard vice
Post by: dogcatcher on April 23, 2017, 11:26:08 PM
I have a similar set up to David's vise, but mine is a duck call carving vise.  Made the frame out of 2x2 maple and threaded the wood for bolts for adjustments.  It's base is a 12x12x4 chuck of wood with a trailer hitch ball that allows me swivel the carving in all directions.