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Title: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: smart dog on July 01, 2017, 04:07:36 AM
Hi Folks,
Photobucket just changed their policy and is now charging $400/yr for third party hosting, which means all of your photos on Photobucket shared with this forum.  They severed all links with photos so if you are using them, your photos are no longer displayed on this site unless you pay up.  They did this with almost no warning and many tech gurus think they are doomed.  Apparently all new membership on their site has ceased and virtually all the traffic is people off loading their images.  I off loaded all my images and am looking for a new hosting site but I will have to update all the links in my many posts to the new address if I want the photos to be reposted.  This is the kind of "digital tech" behavior that will eventually ruin many people.

dave
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: flehto on July 01, 2017, 05:20:25 AM
Used their site a couple of days ago and the steady intrusion of pop up ads made it impossible  to post pics. Thought they were going under and no doubt will....no body is willing to spend $400/yr when some services are free. Lucky thing that I have all my pics in my computer so won't retrieve any from them. If you find a good site, please let me know.....Fred
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: B.Barker on July 01, 2017, 05:29:59 AM
I checked out one site, I think it was imgur or something like that. Never could figure out how to download a photo to their sit though. I aint very techish so you can't go by my failures. You might try it.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Rolf on July 01, 2017, 09:33:38 AM
I checked a few of my previous posts. All the Pictures are there. No problems posting New Pictures in this reply. No ones billed me 400$. But then again, I've bougth exstra Storage Space from photobucket. Costs 60$ a year and garanties no pop up adds.

Smart dog, are you sure Your information is correct? If they try to bill me 400$, I'm going to stop using photobucket.

Best regards
Rolf

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi73.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi202%2Frolfkt%2Flong%2520barrel%2520target%2520pistol%2FDSC_0216_zps0beorqxc.jpg&hash=610ed50e79f70f18b2de1c473a5e835477cc9355) (http://s73.photobucket.com/user/rolfkt/media/long%20barrel%20target%20pistol/DSC_0216_zps0beorqxc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Rolf on July 01, 2017, 09:49:46 AM
You are rigth smart dog. I checked photobuckets website. I can't understand how the dare try such a stunt. I sent them an email telling them I'm cancelling my Subscription if the go throurgh With it.

Best regards
Rolf
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Majorjoel on July 01, 2017, 09:56:24 AM
I canceled my photobucket plus subscription that I have been paying for several years just this morning.

I wonder what ill effects this attempted black mail will have upon our ALR Library!

About a year ago I joined up with Flickr (another photo storage service) but do not see a way to directly attach photos to my posts.

This is just a test to see if this is something I can use: https://www.flickr.com/photos/140063658@N08/shares/a6M0sQ

Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: vtmtnman on July 01, 2017, 01:28:31 PM
I used photobucket for some other forums and it is quite the pain to use.

Try this one,fast uploads and no pop ups.

http://imgur.com
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Dennis Glazener on July 01, 2017, 02:13:37 PM
I set-up am account with http://imgbb.com which is the site ALR photo uploads are stored on. If you upload using ALR upload feature the photo is stored at a random location on the http://imgbb.com site. If you create an account with http://imgbb.com you can use it like photocopier.
Dennis
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: smart dog on July 01, 2017, 02:17:37 PM
Hi,
I signed up with imgur.com.  It is a far better host than Photobucket.  No ads and very simple procedures to upload photos and then share them. Uploads are fast and to include an image in your posts, just place your pointer on the uploaded image you want, then click on the little down arrow and select "get share options", which brings up a menu, and click copy by the "forum" option.  Then go to your post and paste.  You don't need to use the ALR menu button for embedding photos. It is very simple. Dennis thanks for mentioning the other option.  I chose Imgur because I post photos on other sites that may not be linked to imgbb.

dave 
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: wattlebuster on July 01, 2017, 02:47:29 PM
I just checked my photo bucket acct an they didnt ask me for any money but in the same breath I can get a pic to copy an paste. They can just delete my acct an wish they had my 400 dollars. I made it for a long time without them so I dont figure I will lose any sleep over them now
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Rolf on July 01, 2017, 03:12:08 PM
I set-up am account with http://imgbb.com which is the site ALR photo uploads are stored on. If you upload using ALR upload feature the photo is stored at a random location on the http://imgbb.com site. If you create an account with http://imgbb.com you can use it like photocopier.
Dennis

Dennis, What about all the Pictures in the tutorial section? I sure hope we don't lose them. Any simple way to fix this?

Best regards
Rolf
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Eric Krewson on July 01, 2017, 03:52:30 PM
You can see the old photobucket pictures if you right click on their black mail announcement and open the picture in a new tab, cumbersome but it works.

If photobucket had asked for say, $25 a year I would have gone along with it but $400, nah.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Mike Brooks on July 01, 2017, 04:12:27 PM
No problems here, all of my stuff is still up. I've been paying them $25 a year for ever and found their sight very easy to use. I hope not to ever have an issue with them , I have about a million pictures stored over there that would be gone for ever if they pulled the plug on me..... :o
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: smart dog on July 01, 2017, 05:14:24 PM
Hi,
You won't lose your photos unless they go under.  What they are doing is making you pay to share those photos with a third party host like a forum.  I think they are hitting those with the lowest subscription rates first and then they may move up the ladder.  For them to do this unannounced and just cut all links is outrageous but then Photobucket has been getting worse over time with all the ads and very clunky windows.  A number of online tech gurus that regularly review internet products have been bashing Photobucket for falling behind both technically and in customer service.  For me this is actually a good thing because it gives me the chance to reorganize my photos and migrate to a technically much better host.  I will have to go back and embed photos from the new host in my more important posts such as tutorials, but that's OK.     

dave
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: PPatch on July 01, 2017, 05:27:44 PM
I just went through the Metal section of the tutorials and it looks like we've lost about 10-15% of the pix. Not as bad as I thought, other sections might be worse.

dave

Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: WadePatton on July 01, 2017, 07:32:48 PM
Never paid a penny for image hosting. I too use imgur.com when I have to. And mostly that was for posting things here. Generally everything else I run through FB. 

When I set up a website, I suppose I'll need more, but until then I don't.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: hanshi on July 01, 2017, 07:43:47 PM
Hi Folks,
Photobucket just changed their policy and is now charging $400/yr for third party hosting, which means all of your photos on Photobucket shared with this forum.  They severed all links with photos so if you are using them, your photos are no longer displayed on this site unless you pay up.  They did this with almost no warning and many tech gurus think they are doomed.  Apparently all new membership on their site has ceased and virtually all the traffic is people off loading their images.  I off loaded all my images and am looking for a new hosting site but I will have to update all the links in my many posts to the new address if I want the photos to be reposted.  This is the kind of "digital tech" behavior that will eventually ruin many people.

dave




90% of my photos are photobucket; they are a miserable site for sure.  My question is, How do you get photos transferred to a new hosting site?   
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Mauser06 on July 01, 2017, 08:48:49 PM
Hanshi, I don't know there is an easy way to transfer the pics elsewhere.   I've downloaded my account once and believe I was able to download all of them from one click...didn't have to do them individually.  Then you'd have to upload them on a new site. 



Photobucket surely got squirrely lately.  The app on my phone worked OK usually.  Trying to use the website it usually crashed itself from all the popups and junk. 




Going to try to download all mine again and get rid of it...I  used it for so long that's why I kept using it.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: smart dog on July 01, 2017, 09:05:18 PM
Hi Hanshi,
When you open up your Photobucket library, you will see a command on the lower right (along with other commands) to download your album.  Just click on that and it will begin the process.  You will have to click a download button again after it has compressed the files and asks if you are ready to download.  It will download a compressed file of all of your photos in that album and then I open the the little download window that pops up on the bottom of your screen and ask it to show me the file in folder. When it does, I copy and paste that file into my photos folder on my computer.  You need to do this for every separate album in your Photobucket account.  If you have everything in one library (which it treats as an album) you only have to do the download once.  The files on your computer are compressed so you have to extract them before you can see them.  Just click on the folder and select "extract" and it unzips all of the photos into that same folder.  Unfortunately, then you have upload everything as you need it into imgur.com.  You can upload a batch of photos at a time by just holding down the control key and clicking on the photos you want to upload when you select them in imgur.

dave 
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: David Rase on July 01, 2017, 10:33:34 PM
Dave,
Thanks for the "tutorial" on downloading fromPhotobucket.  I down loaded all my photos and deleted my account.  It was a very easy process using your instructions.  Now I need to sit down with a few cold Dos Equis and go through my posting history and start updating photos.
David
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Ky-Flinter on July 01, 2017, 10:47:36 PM
PhotoBucket updated their Terms of Use on June 28, 2017.   http://photobucket.com/terms (http://photobucket.com/terms)

They will no longer allow 3rd party hosting unless you buy their $399.99/year plan.  You can continue to use PhotoBucket to store pictures, but you will not be able to link your PhotoBucket photos to any other site, including ALR, unless you pay up.

Excepts from PhotoBucket's new Terms of Use:
The free account does not allow any image linking or 3rd party image hosting.

Plus 500 Plan: 500 GB of Storage and unlimited bandwidth for $399.99 / Year. The Plus 500 Plan allows for unlimited image linking and unlimited 3rd party image hosting.

Gentlemen this is a catastrophe for ALR!  Most of the older pictures on ALR are hosted on Photobucket.  You may be able to see your photos on ALR now, but it is only a matter of time before they are replaced by a PhotoBucket instruction for you to upgrade your PhotoBucket account.

-Ron
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Ky-Flinter on July 01, 2017, 11:00:43 PM
Luckily, I have all my photos stored on my PC and only used PhotoBucket to host the pictures I posted here on ALR.

Dave (Smart Dog) has mentioned he will be going thru his old posts to update all the photo links so the pictures will again be visible.

I will be doing the same, and I truly hope every ALR member who is able to do so will update their photo links on ALR as well.

This will be a huge commitment in time, but ALR is too valuable not to do it.

-Ron
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: jcmcclure on July 01, 2017, 11:54:38 PM
Luckily, I have all my photos stored on my PC and only used PhotoBucket to host the pictures I posted here on ALR.

Dave (Smart Dog) has mentioned he will be going thru his old posts to update all the photo links so the pictures will again be visible.

I will be doing the same, and I truly hope every ALR member who is able to do so will update their photo links on ALR as well.

This will be a huge commitment in time, but ALR is too valuable not to do it.

-Ron

Ron,

What are other options available for picture posting. I will obviously be setting up some type of new account with whoever offer a free option.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Mark Elliott on July 02, 2017, 01:04:35 AM
I have mentioned this before and I will mention it again.   I put all my shared photos up on Amazon S3.    I also use it for distributing large files and photo archives, and as a content delivery network for my web site.   For all that, I pay about $0.20 a month.   
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: smart dog on July 02, 2017, 01:14:20 AM
Luckily, I have all my photos stored on my PC and only used PhotoBucket to host the pictures I posted here on ALR.

Dave (Smart Dog) has mentioned he will be going thru his old posts to update all the photo links so the pictures will again be visible.

I will be doing the same, and I truly hope every ALR member who is able to do so will update their photo links on ALR as well.

This will be a huge commitment in time, but ALR is too valuable not to do it.

-Ron

Ron,

What are other options available for picture posting. I will obviously be setting up some type of new account with whoever offer a free option.

Hi,
Mark Elliot mentioned a good alternative and there is imgur.com and flikr.com, which seem to be good sites.  I don't mind paying a subscription that is actually appropriate for the service but not $400.  I suspect Photobucket may find they made a huge mistake.  None of the internet reviews of image hosting I have read lately recommend Photobucket.

dave
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Ky-Flinter on July 02, 2017, 01:34:33 AM
What are other options available for picture posting. I will obviously be setting up some type of new account with whoever offer a free option.

I just store my photos on my home PC.  To post pictures on ALR now I use the new "Add image to post" button that was added recently and pull the photos into my ALR post straight from my PC.  Details on how to do it are here....  http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=43575.0

-Ron
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Dennis Glazener on July 02, 2017, 02:49:14 AM
Rolf,
I have no control of the photos that are hosted on PB or other photos sites. The BBC (Bulletin Board Code) that surrounds the a photo URL asks the distant photo site to display the photo and you view it via our post.

I feel like PB has probably finally discovered that forums, not just ours but many others are hot linking to photos and decided they did not want to do this anymore without being paid for it.

Personally I would move my photos to a site like imgbb.com (the site we use with our image upload program) and create a free account. This site actively offers free upload software to Forums to upload photos for the forum. Too be honest I am not sure how they make their money but you can use it here for free and its free to set up your own account.

Sorry I have no better solution. I have no way to obtain the photos members put in their tutorials, only the members have access to them via their PB account.
Dennis
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Dennis Glazener on July 02, 2017, 02:55:05 AM
Hi,
I signed up with imgur.com.  It is a far better host than Photobucket.  No ads and very simple procedures to upload photos and then share them. Uploads are fast and to include an image in your posts, just place your pointer on the uploaded image you want, then click on the little down arrow and select "get share options", which brings up a menu, and click copy by the "forum" option.  Then go to your post and paste.  You don't need to use the ALR menu button for embedding photos. It is very simple. Dennis thanks for mentioning the other option.  I chose Imgur because I post photos on other sites that may not be linked to imgbb.

dave

Dave,
I use my imgbb.com account to post on other forums. Once you have a photo on any (doesn't have to be a photo site) website you can display it here or any other forum using the BBC code for photo display.
Dennis
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Rolf on July 02, 2017, 11:38:14 AM
Rolf,
I have no control of the photos that are hosted on PB or other photos sites. The BBC (Bulletin Board Code) that surrounds the a photo URL asks the distant photo site to display the photo and you view it via our post.

I feel like PB has probably finally discovered that forums, not just ours but many others are hot linking to photos and decided they did not want to do this anymore without being paid for it.

Personally I would move my photos to a site like imgbb.com (the site we use with our image upload program) and create a free account. This site actively offers free upload software to Forums to upload photos for the forum. Too be honest I am not sure how they make their money but you can use it here for free and its free to set up your own account.

Sorry I have no better solution. I have no way to obtain the photos members put in their tutorials, only the members have access to them via their PB account.
Dennis

At the moment pb has not done anything to the photos I've posted. I'm hoping they will resind their thirdparty policy, when they lose enough customers . If not, I'll switch to one of the sites recomended here and repost the Pictures in the tutorials I've written.

Three questions:
1.By using another hosting site like imgur or imgbb, are we not risking another potenial "blackmail" threat?

2.Would it be possible to store the Pictures on the ALR server? Aleast for the tutorials and the Library? It would be a shame to lose this Reference material. It's one of the Things that makes ALR Unic.

3. Is there a simple way to load Down and store posts With Pictures from the ALR, to Our own computers? I'd really hate to lose the tutorials.

Best regards
Rolf
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: fstreed on July 02, 2017, 11:54:21 AM

About a year ago I joined up with Flickr (another photo storage service) but do not see a way to directly attach photos to my posts.

This is just a test to see if this is something I can use: https://www.flickr.com/photos/140063658@N08/shares/a6M0sQ

Click on the pic you want to attach, then the "share photo" arrow under the photo. That will open a window with share options, click on the "BBCode" option, then copy and paste it to your post. It might be set by default to "Embed" or something else. Change it to "BBCode" and it should work.

I have to pay a yearly fee for Flickr, don't remember how much, but not $400.

Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Mauser06 on July 02, 2017, 03:33:48 PM
Oddly enough I looked on another forum and my pictures still show...not the error pictures we see on here now.  Wonder what the difference is....I link them the exact same way.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: sz on July 02, 2017, 08:01:41 PM
I deleted all my photos from P.B. and went to Flickr.
Seems to work and it's not being run by those that try to stab us in the back. (so far)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4030/35504945682_7a0100d175_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W6s8nU)100_1349 (https://flic.kr/p/W6s8nU) by Steve Zihn (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156296479@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4214/35504945862_d8eb1c9cbb_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W6s8r1)100_1198 (https://flic.kr/p/W6s8r1) by Steve Zihn (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156296479@N08/), on Flickr

I think photobucket should be left to die a natural death economically,  from trying to sell what others have for free
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Dennis Glazener on July 02, 2017, 10:32:33 PM
Oddly enough I looked on another forum and my pictures still show...not the error pictures we see on here now.  Wonder what the difference is....I link them the exact same way.

I suspect, don't know, that Photobucket identified some of the high use hot links from ALR and blocked those links. Probably the links on the other forum had not been as active recently and they didn't block them but that might just be a matter of time.

I doubt that your actual photos on PB will be bothered with. Its the hot links between ALR and Photobucket that is bothering them. They don't want that activity tieing up their servers without some revenue!

Its strange, imgbb.com is actively soliciting forums (hence our photo upload software) to use their free site and PB is blocking them!
Dennis
Dennis
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Dennis Glazener on July 02, 2017, 10:41:28 PM

Rolf,
I have no control of the photos that are hosted on PB or other photos sites. The BBC (Bulletin Board Code) that surrounds the a photo URL asks the distant photo site to display the photo and you view it via our post.

I feel like PB has probably finally discovered that forums, not just ours but many others are hot linking to photos and decided they did not want to do this anymore without being paid for it.

Personally I would move my photos to a site like imgbb.com (the site we use with our image upload program) and create a free account. This site actively offers free upload software to Forums to upload photos for the forum. Too be honest I am not sure how they make their money but you can use it here for free and its free to set up your own account.

Sorry I have no better solution. I have no way to obtain the photos members put in their tutorials, only the members have access to them via their PB account.
Dennis

At the moment pb has not done anything to the photos I've posted. I'm hoping they will resind their thirdparty policy, when they lose enough customers . If not, I'll switch to one of the sites recomended here and repost the Pictures in the tutorials I've written.

Three questions:
1.By using another hosting site like imgur or imgbb, are we not risking another potenial "blackmail" threat? **Yes its always a gamble with free sites, probably not as much as with paid sites**

2.Would it be possible to store the Pictures on the ALR server? A least for the tutorials and the Library? It would be a shame to lose this Reference material. It's one of the Things that makes ALR Unic. **Yes its possible but one of the problems is disk space. I do not have anywhere near enough disk space to host all the photos that are posted here on ALR. I can lease more space but the problem I have there is I don't need it unless I allowed photos to be stored here. If I added disk space my current annual contract, which has been grandfathered price wise, will be subject to the new prices if I make any change in my existing contract. Then there is the concern that I have for hackers planting trojan's, malware etc in photo files. I just prefer not to host photos.**

3. Is there a simple way to load Down and store posts With Pictures from the ALR, to Our own computers? I'd really hate to lose the tutorials. **What needs to occur is for the owners of the photos to download copies of their tutorial photos to a new site then replace the photo links from ALR to the new site. Or, if the photo can be viewed by bypassing the PB block, anyone should be able to save that photo to their hard drive then it can be put on another site. BUT this should be done with the permission of the owner of the photo since the copyright of that photo belongs to them**

Best regards
Rolf (with answers to his questions by Dennis Glazener ALR Admin)
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Joe S on July 02, 2017, 10:54:34 PM
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3. Is there a simple way to load Down and store posts With Pictures from the ALR, to Our own computers? I'd really hate to lose the tutorials.

Just copy them and paste them into a Word document.  I have saved a lot of files that way.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Mike Brooks on July 02, 2017, 11:28:12 PM
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I deleted all my photos from P.B. and went to Flickr.
Seems to work and it's not being run by those that try to stab us in the back. (so far)
Funny, I have never felt stabbed in the back by photobucket, nothing but smooth sailing for me. Of course I have been paying them $25 a year for probably at least 15 years. Just a cost of doing business, never expected them to carry all those pics for free.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: hanshi on July 02, 2017, 11:38:50 PM
Thanks for all the advice on how to download (or is it "upload", what's the difference?) from PB; I'll be doing that very soon.  I'll maybe start trying imgbb.com.  Yesterday I went over all my pb pics and (saved?) them on, I think, my computer.  It took a while because I had to do each photo individually.  Trouble is that when I click to try browse and pic a photo to post, what comes up is a list of, not photos, but codes with nothing to let me know what photo each code represents.  I am NOT anywhere near being computer literate.  I have to be led around by the hand to accomplish anything.
 
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: smart dog on July 03, 2017, 12:43:41 AM
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I deleted all my photos from P.B. and went to Flickr.
Seems to work and it's not being run by those that try to stab us in the back. (so far)
Funny, I have never felt stabbed in the back by photobucket, nothing but smooth sailing for me. Of course I have been paying them $25 a year for probably at least 15 years. Just a cost of doing business, never expected them to carry all those pics for free.
Hi Mike,
So why are they hitting folks with $400?  Back payment for a policy they allowed for 15 years, without warning anyone?  What I think is happening they are targeting folks with a lot of posted pictures, perhaps approaching or exceeding their monthly bandwidth limit.  It may just be a matter of time before their algorithm finds more folks.

dave
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Timothy88 on July 03, 2017, 12:47:53 AM
I don't know if this is correct or not, but on muzzleloadingforum.com there is a post that says that you can still share a limited amount of photos with 3rd party sites (like americanlongrifles.org) when using a free photo bucket account.

Below is a link to the post, but you will only be able to view it if you are a member.

http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/304339/ (http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/304339/)
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: smart dog on July 03, 2017, 02:00:56 AM
Hi Tim,
The difference is that in your example, PB is just locking you out temporarily until the next month.  What I am talking about is they are now charging $400 to share any photos with third parties.

dave
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: davec2 on July 03, 2017, 02:01:06 AM
Well......this is really too bad.  There is not a snow ball's chance in $#*! I will ever have the time to try to re-construct / re-post all my photos.  I bet the same is true for many of us.  Quite the loss for the whole community......:(

 
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Dennis Glazener on July 03, 2017, 04:01:37 AM
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3. Is there a simple way to load Down and store posts With Pictures from the ALR, to Our own computers? I'd really hate to lose the tutorials.

Just copy them and paste them into a Word document.  I have saved a lot of files that way.
Then you have a MS Word file, fine for looking at yourself but its best to do a right click on the photo and do a "save image as" which allows you to download that image to the folder of your choice. Plus it remains as a .jpg image that you can post, email to others.
Dennis
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Dennis Glazener on July 03, 2017, 04:06:07 AM
Well......this is really too bad.  There is not a snow ball's chance in $#*! I will ever have the time to try to re-construct / re-post all my photos.  I bet the same is true for many of us.  Quite the loss for the whole community......:(

I understand, I am now trying to figure out a tenable way of saving the virtual library! I really hate to think of losing the photos/data stored there over the years. Nord and Hurricane took several years to build that library.
Dennis
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Ezra on July 03, 2017, 04:43:46 AM
I moved from PB to ImageShack.  PB had become torture to use.  I gave them a Hawaiian good luck sign as I removed all my photos from their site.

Ez
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Mark Elliott on July 03, 2017, 09:24:53 PM
I would like to point out the obvious; that nothing is free.   You pay one way or another.   However,  you can pay pay Amazon (lots of web sites and cloud storage services use Amazon Web Services as their back end) for your actual use and not worry about being told how to use it or how much you use it.   You pay for storage and bandwidth used.   For me, it is pennies a month and the cost has only gone down over the years as storage and bandwidth has gotten cheaper.   It does require a little technical knowledge, but the web interface is pretty easy to use, and I don't think most computer users would have too much trouble with it.   If you could post photos the old way on ALR,  you should be able to use Amazon Web Services S3 storage.   This is but one of dozens of web services they offer; and only one of several storage services.   It is designed to deliver web content.

Here is a link to the Amazon Web Services home page if you want to investigate it;  https://aws.amazon.com/?nc2=h_lg (https://aws.amazon.com/?nc2=h_lg)
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Ky-Flinter on July 03, 2017, 09:52:25 PM
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3. Is there a simple way to load Down and store posts With Pictures from the ALR, to Our own computers? I'd really hate to lose the tutorials.

Just copy them and paste them into a Word document.  I have saved a lot of files that way.

Jose,

That will work to capture the text, but at some point the links to pictures on Photobucket will be terminated.  Try reading a tutorial with no pictures.

-Ron
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Mark Elliott on July 04, 2017, 04:56:16 AM
Well......this is really too bad.  There is not a snow ball's chance in $#*! I will ever have the time to try to re-construct / re-post all my photos.  I bet the same is true for many of us.  Quite the loss for the whole community......:(

I understand, I am now trying to figure out a tenable way of saving the virtual library! I really hate to think of losing the photos/data stored there over the years. Nord and Hurricane took several years to build that library.
Dennis

Dennis,

I think the only thing you can do to make sure the library stays with the site is to move the photos to the site's server.    Of course the problem is that all the photos will have to be transferred to the ALR server and then relinked.   It will be a tremendous amount of work.   I will volunteer some of my time to do that once you have a process.  If you divide up the library among volunteers,  we can start saving the photos off to our local drives.   We can upload them and relink them at a later time.   Just an idea, and I am willing to give you a couple hours (or more) a week of my time.

Mark

Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: SingleMalt on July 04, 2017, 06:13:48 AM
Just signed up for a imgbb.com account.  S'long, Photobucket!


(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2FkXZXPa%2FIMG_2905.jpg&hash=a32463305678032dffe401a4e84f7d94e55fc244) (http://ibb.co/hSORja)

I'm shocked!  I got it to work!   ;D
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Dennis Glazener on July 04, 2017, 12:48:42 PM
I will let you and others know more when I know more about the PB account that hosts the library. Right now the photos are displaying as they should. Its a paid account so that might make a difference.
Dennis
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: smart dog on July 04, 2017, 02:12:18 PM
Hi Dennis,
I suspect it should be OK because it is a paid account with PB.  I think they are nailing anyone with a free account that has posted a lot of pictures on forums and BBs.  Paying is not a problem but they seem to be applying a punitive measure to folks who used PB with free or lower tier subscriptions even though their policies until last week, allowed it.  I also suspect PB believes they can extort the high subscription rate from many of those folks because many have distributed photos over years and are trapped.  I think that is why PB sprung this trap without any fanfare or much announcement.  Anyway, ol' smart dog ain't trapped and has moved on. It will take me a while to replace photos in many of my previous posts but I am going to focus immediately on my tutorials.  The five-part one I did on making an 18th century pistol case has many photos to replace.  Regardless, it was time to exit PB anyway because their service was deteriorating.  Fortunately, I have few digital connections and do not participate in social media but I have an ominous feeling that we are all about to pay heavily for our reliance on digital connections very soon.

dave 
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Dennis Glazener on July 04, 2017, 04:12:15 PM
Dave,
I suspect you are right about the free PB accounts and it would be a monumental job to relocate them to another host.
Dennis
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: SingleMalt on July 04, 2017, 05:14:12 PM
Dave,
I suspect you are right about the free PB accounts and it would be a monumental job to relocate them to another host.
Dennis

Dennis, I plan to move my pics from PB in groups of maybe ten.  There's about 250 pics there, so it won't be too bad.  Like eating an elephant, one bite at a time.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Majorjoel on July 04, 2017, 09:12:42 PM
I have been paying for PB services for several years now and got a message from them about the 3rd party linkup's.

I have recently sent them a message to please cancel my account.

Pretty sure that they will not have time to reply back to me as they will be too busy taking care of all of the flak that they have made for themselves.

Most all of my pictures are on my computer's file folders and will stay there with all of my back up's.

A few I will miss that were from my beginnings in computer digital photography that were incorporated in laptops now long gone. :'(

Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: smart dog on July 04, 2017, 10:26:12 PM
Hi,
I just read some posts on a Photobucket blog site saying that even paying subscribers are now have their photos locked out until they join at the $400/yr fee.  Some are even saying they now blocked from downloading  their photos from the site.  I suspect this issue is still developing so even if you paid them, you may want to check on your posts over time.

dave
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Joe S on July 04, 2017, 11:35:58 PM
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Jose,

That will work to capture the text, but at some point the links to pictures on Photobucket will be terminated.  Try reading a tutorial with no pictures.

-Ron
When you copy a post with both text and a photograph, and put them in a Word document, the photo is stored locally and cannot be deleted by Photobucket or anybody else.

Quote
Then you have a MS Word file, fine for looking at yourself but its best to do a right click on the photo and do a "save image as" which allows you to download that image to the folder of your choice. Plus it remains as a .jpg image that you can post, email to others.
Dennis

If you want to share the photo from the Word document, right click on the photo and select Save As Picture from the dropdown menu.  A photo that has been saved directly as a picture, and one that has been extracted from a Word document are identical in size, so there is no loss in resolution due to passing though the Word document.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Mark Elliott on July 05, 2017, 12:33:44 AM
To save a photo off the web to a local folder/drive,  just right click on the photo and select "Save Image As" and specify a local location.    In order to keep things nice and neat ,  you need to think ahead and setup a logical folder structure and file name scheme.   For my photos, I organize by year, then a folder name with a date string (YYYYMMDD) followed by a short description of the client or subject.   Another scheme might work for you.   

If you are able to view an image on the web,  it has already been downloaded to your browser and stored on your local computer in the cache.   You only need to save it to a location where you can easily retrieve it.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: KentSmith on July 05, 2017, 05:16:05 AM
AWS S3 is the way to go. Put them up on the cloud
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Mike Brooks on July 05, 2017, 03:15:13 PM
AWS S3 is the way to go. Put them up on the cloud
Cloud?
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Keb on July 05, 2017, 03:31:16 PM
Some time ago there was a discussion on photo hosting on this forum. The topic was "disappearing photos". Anywho, I remember someone being miffed about photos not showing up. I casually mentioned pretty much what Mark Elliot said above about free ain't necessarily free. I stated I buy my own web space for posting purposes and complete control of my internet property. Sorry boys, but you get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: smart dog on July 05, 2017, 04:20:26 PM
Hi Keb,
With Photobucket you may pay but not get what you paid for.  It seems they are working their way through paid accounts now.  I guess they want everyone at $400/yr. 

dave 
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Mike Brooks on July 05, 2017, 04:23:19 PM
Hi Keb,
With Photobucket you may pay but not get what you paid for.  It seems they are working their way through paid accounts now.  I guess they want everyone at $400/yr. 

dave
If that's the way this ends up that will be the end of my website and my tutorial.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Long John on July 05, 2017, 05:23:09 PM
Friends,

Being terminally stupid, I never understood why the software that is used to create a site like ALR didn't just accept jpegs from our computers rather than going through all the rigamarole (sic!) of storing the photos to some other site and then copying the link over to ALR.  The real solution is for the software that supports a site like ALR to allow direct importation of photos, JPEGs, from the participant's computer.  Everything that I have a PB is a copy of a photo that is in my computer, along with archive back-up.  So I won't "loose" any photos.  But you all are telling me, it seems, that all the posts we have made in the past using PB will now be missing the photos.  Doesn't going to some other photo storage site just set the stage for a future replay of what we are all discussing here?

Best Regards,

JMC
John Cholin
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: smart dog on July 05, 2017, 06:03:22 PM
Hi Mike,
Keep an eye on them.  From comments on one PB blog site, it appears some who paid the new subscription fee still have not had their shared photos activated.  Others have only a portion of their photos activated.  I think the key problem with PB is they are combining a ruthless business decision with technical incompetence.  The technical incompetence part apparently has been widely commented on in photo blog sites for a long time. The tragedy is they pulled in many users in the early 2000s because they were the only game in town and now they are punishing those users.  Moreover, probably most forums encouraging members to post photos, directed their members to "free" image hosting sites with PB always being mentioned.  Our own tutorial for posting photos on ALR prominently mentions "free" image hosting on Photobucket unless you need to pay for more storage capacity.  So to admonish folks with "you get what you pay for" is not very helpful or even appropriate.  It's an old saw without the proper context in this case.

dave   
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: 44-henry on July 05, 2017, 06:37:24 PM
I would be very leery of paying PB anything at this point. The whole situation strikes me as a "take what you can get and run" sort of affair. It is the last gasp of a dying company trying to pull in a few bucks before their inevitable demise, in other words, if you pay them don't be surprised when they still go under in a few months taking your money and photos with them. I was just on their site this morning downloading all the photos that I have stored (that were not already backed up), I suggest others do the same thing while they are still able to.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Ray Settanta on July 05, 2017, 06:50:19 PM
I have downloaded some tutorials and web pages that still have photos on them as a pdf file to my computer since the photos from Photobucket have disappeared. Will this allow me to view these photos in the future if something like this happens again?
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Kingsburyarms on July 05, 2017, 10:51:46 PM
If you have the PDF files - you can then see the images on them. it's a good way to store images if you can not get the originals to download.   

All - if you have a bunch of images on Photobucket, you can "mass download them to your computer:

http://support.photobucket.com/hc/en-us/articles/201892970-Downloading-Albums

You can do this by albums - makes it a lot faster.

I will do some more "hunting"  on how we can save all we can. and some other options,

Mike: Get those tutorials downloaded on your computer!!!!!
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Mike Brooks on July 05, 2017, 11:20:49 PM
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Mike: Get those tutorials downloaded on your computer!!!!!
Wouldn't have a clue. ???
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: SingleMalt on July 05, 2017, 11:23:12 PM
My photos haven't disappeared, but a pop-up that won't close ask, no, urges me to upgrade my account.   >:(
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Eric Krewson on July 05, 2017, 11:39:14 PM
OK, I downloaded an album from PB to my computer but don't know where it went to or how to find it.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Bob Roller on July 06, 2017, 12:14:04 AM
I would tell them they would have to "charge it"because there is no way
I'd pay $400 a year.

Bob Roller
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: smart dog on July 06, 2017, 12:41:10 AM
Hi Eric,
Check to see if you have a new folder in your main computer directory (probably your "C" drive).  When you move your pointer over the folder, it will say folder contains compressed or zipped files.  Then copy it to the place you want it to reside and click on the folder. You will see and option to extract files.  Click on that and the photos will appear in your folder.

dave
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: smart dog on July 06, 2017, 02:52:06 AM
Hi,
Here is a good link to information about what is going on.  I have been familiar with PC mag since I began using PCs in the 1980s and coding my own software for spreadsheets, word processing, statistics, and graphics as a poor graduate student who could not afford the commercial products but had to do work relying on that software.   That is why I taught myself BASIC, FORTRAN, PASCAL, and "C++" and more recently "S+" and "R". 

https://www.pcmag.com/news/354711/photobucket-breaks-image-links-across-the-internet

You know, it is sad.  Our society promotes our children to be lawyers, investment bankers, video game programers, and celebrities but makes it really hard to be scientists and engineers, the people who are the best, brightest, and most important in our modern world.

dave
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: jerrywh on July 06, 2017, 05:17:39 PM
 On other forums there is talk about a law suit against photo bucket.  This sort of like extortion. One person said that photo bucket it reconsidering this.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Dennis Glazener on July 06, 2017, 06:08:09 PM
If you have the PDF files - you can then see the images on them. it's a good way to store images if you can not get the originals to download.   

All - if you have a bunch of images on Photobucket, you can "mass download them to your computer:

http://support.photobucket.com/hc/en-us/articles/201892970-Downloading-Albums

You can do this by albums - makes it a lot faster.

I will do some more "hunting"  on how we can save all we can. and some other options,

Mike: Get those tutorials downloaded on your computer!!!!!

Mike's tutorial is safe. I converted it to a PDF a couple of years ago and have a copy on my hard drive as well as one on my website.
Dennis
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Daryl on July 06, 2017, 08:28:23 PM
Every firearms forum I frequent, is discussing photobucket at this time.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: moleeyes36 on July 09, 2017, 04:50:33 PM
Here's a link to an interesting story about PB I found this morning https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/big-lesson-learned-photobuckets-ransom-images-debacle-191026772.html

Mole Eyes
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: J Henry on July 09, 2017, 06:54:56 PM
Easy fix,,drop them and tell them why.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: wattlebuster on July 09, 2017, 07:37:48 PM
I just tried to delete my acct from photobucket an I cant find anything that will let me delete it. I aint to computer sharp so any suggestions will be appreciated. My pics are backed up on my computer and a plug in devise so I want to delete PB completely
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Robby on July 10, 2017, 01:01:29 AM
Me too Wattlebuster, I removed everything from my account there but can't figure out how to delete my account. Sure would like to tell them why, as an aside.
Thank you Dave.
Robin
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Kingsburyarms on July 10, 2017, 02:42:20 AM
Delete account:

http://support.photobucket.com/hc/en-us/articles/200724654-How-do-I-Delete-my-Account-

Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Mike Brooks on July 17, 2017, 11:41:59 PM
Well, they finally got me too. Bazillions of pop ups that slow my computer down so bad It's nearly useless to try and up or down load pics. They say I have until 12/31/18 to fork over the $400. If  don't, I gets the AX. ::)

That and my Yahoo  email account has been hacked....oh joy.... ::)
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: wattlebuster on July 18, 2017, 12:53:39 AM
Do like I did Mike an give them the AXE first. I cancelled my acct last week. There is a few pics that I cant get back but I will not be blackmailed/extorted so I told them to kiss my redneck a$$. They are real sissy's about it though. I could not cancell my acct except by email an it took several days to do so but now its said an done
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Kingsburyarms on July 18, 2017, 02:21:16 AM
Mike - if you need an "IT" guy to help you gather all your images and uploads from Photobucket when you dump them - IM me - I will be glad to help...

Jon
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Mike Brooks on July 18, 2017, 05:15:04 PM
Mike - if you need an "IT" guy to help you gather all your images and uploads from Photobucket when you dump them - IM me - I will be glad to help...

Jon
Thanks , I'll take you up on that. Computer got hacked a few days ago, got to get that straightened out first.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: greybeard on July 18, 2017, 09:54:17 PM
Got my nasty note from  PB today.  Bob
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Gaeckle on July 19, 2017, 08:21:47 AM
I'm waiting to see if there is some sort of legal repercussion, a class action law suite based upon the pilfering of intellectual property.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Dennis Glazener on July 19, 2017, 02:37:41 PM
I'm waiting to see if there is some sort of legal repercussion, a class action law suite based upon the pilfering of intellectual property.
On what grounds? You have access to remove photos. No one is making us leave our photos there, I don't like their decisions but I see nothing legally wrong with what they ate doing.
Dennis
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: smart dog on July 19, 2017, 03:00:24 PM
Hi,
Dennis is correct.  PB has not broken any laws as far as I can tell and I had no trouble downloading photos from my account.  Moreover, I suspect there may be nothing to sue in 6 months.

dave
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Gaeckle on July 19, 2017, 05:07:23 PM
True, they (PB) may not be here in 6 months, but the initial premise of their start up was the ability of having photos stored, shared and used to communicate ideas and other things that are for the most part held in ransom. The intellectual property idea, just my opinion and nothing more, stems from the thought that in this forum, we have tutorial sections where members apply their ideas on problem solving to others and the use of photos is used to help express these ideas. This same thing is happening to other forums and other venues of idea sharing. The current state of affairs is a "pay to play" scenario for sure, but with our law suite happy society, I simply wonder if some lawyer would make the attempt.
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: greybeard on July 19, 2017, 07:39:44 PM
My photos being held for ransom. BLACKMAIL. AGIN the law
Bob
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Doc on July 19, 2017, 10:16:48 PM
Just deleted my account, thanks for the help.  Although I am quite sure that my actions are meaningless.  Just downloaded all my pics and said "Bye"

Doc
Title: Re: Photobucket is now charging $400/yr for sharing photos with forums
Post by: Long John on July 25, 2017, 05:10:31 PM
I have tried to download my album several times and it just latches up and no download occurs.  Fortunately, all mu photos were copies of stuff that I have in my machine here so all I am losing is the convenience of a single location.

JMC
John Cholin