Mike, you missed the part where I said "rough shaped". Try reading a little more carefully next time before throwing out your un-requested feedback on an unfinished part of someone's build.I can pretty easily be less helpful. I'd leave it just like it is. It's absolutely perfect. what is it, about 3" wide? ???
Justin, With the butt profile you have, I would suggest as Dave , that you put a good bit of taper on it . As you can see from the beautiful jaegers the blockier the stock , the more squarish the box lid. I unrestand that you are just "roughing in" now , but Mike Brooks has a good point , 99% of builders , me included , start out making cheekpieces and patchbox lids TOO HUGE!!! When we look at pictures in books ESPECIALLY black and white , they make these features look huge . As Mike stated , when you see some originals in person , it helps bring these things to light. Keep going !!! Nate
Here is another reference for you - Original:Although a good example of how a box lid should look, but that particular lid is a replacement as well. Cool that the restorer even thought to put worm holes in it eh? Very clever.
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2Fd7uaFG%2F24313178_2016432428628514_84050422423632488_o.jpg&hash=1543882ca1675815be45710ab4aac87d778d040f) (http://ibb.co/feU9aG)
Ah, interesting. Now Mike that is actually helpful! Maybe we can talk to each other after all.My delivery may be poor, but you'd probably learn something if you listen. If you were working for me in my shop I would have already bonked you over the head with a woo-woo stick and sent you out to pull weeds for the day. ;) Btw, most of these other folks here know what they're talking about as well, I'm no brainiac, I just been doing this for too long.
Thanks folks, I don't know any better and assumed that was a representative example.
That’s the Albrecht rifle, eh, Mike?Yes I believe it is. I was just looking at it on the KRA disc yesterday. In shumways book it's an old busted up relic missing 1/2 of the stock and various other bits. Now it's a 'real" gun again ::). This is the problem with the work very good restoration guys pose these days. Much of their work is taken for original and can be misleading. I actually preferred the gun as a relic, 'twas a much better study piece in my opinion.
Probably at least half the sliding wooden patch boxes on originals are replacements.
Ah, interesting. Now Mike that is actually helpful! Maybe we can talk to each other after all.My delivery may be poor, but you'd probably learn something if you listen. If you were working for me in my shop I would have already bonked you over the head with a woo-woo stick and sent you out to pull weeds for the day. ;) Btw, most of these other folks here know what they're talking about as well, I'm no brainiac, I just been doing this for too long.
Thanks folks, I don't know any better and assumed that was a representative example.
Something you might consider is tossing that cover out and making something more historically appropriate in style and shape. You might even consider filling the dove tails in the mortise and recutting them so you can get the proper taper and width....I don't know if you can get what you need with what you have now, or maybe you can. The length your cover should be will be probably 5 1/2" or so give or take a bit. Or you could just go with what you have and make do. All depends on your skill and how much effort you figure a box cover is worth in the end and what skills you have to make this work.
So......I just read your reference to Chambers and an extra piece of maple that they sent with the rifle . If you go to the Chamber's web site, you can see a number of photos of wood patch boxes on their rifles. Take a look.
Mike, I'm sure I would and if I were honest, I would say I do learn from your posts but I think you're doing yourself a bit of a disservice by requiring your audience to read past your lack of tact. When you start your "help" off with an attack, are you surprised others get defensive? I get you're "blunt" and that's your character -- if I were with you in person, it'd probably be a lot easier to hear your comments as physical presence adds a heck of a lot to a conversation and how people interpret what each other is saying.I could use a different approach like " Ohhhh! That's wonderful! sand a little off the edge and it will be just perfect. You are marvelous and are easily the most talented man to have ever put together a kit, I doubt you're capable of ever making a mistake. Please tell us all how you manage such terrific work!" There, you wouldn't be offended but you'd have a swelled head and not ever learn a !@*%&@ thing. I could do the modern communication way, all gushy touchy feely don't hurt your feelings sort of way if you like, it happens here on a regular basis, but not by me. Generally these days I try not to offer any comment, but it looks like you needed some help. Don't take my approach personally, I don't even know who you are......
Anyway... enough of that. I'm not hear to teach anyone communication skills (at least I don't think I should).
Hi Mike,It's sort of a magical crooked stick. It's the only way I can get impossible things done on guns when I'm way out of my skills package. I have several, one for every impossible task that I come up against. I usually move it in a counter clockwise direction while I play Beetles music backwards then right at the end whilst I jump up and down on my left foot I shout Mecka lecka high mecka hiney HOOOO! Then everything just sort of jumps together on it's own. I've been thinking of selling some of my spares on the for sale forum, but I'd probably have to ask too much for them.... :P
What's a "woo woo stick"? I think I may have been whupped by one sometime in my life but I am not sure. Is it anything like a cattle prod?
dave
To HECK! with Justin`s patchbox , we have finally gotten to sum much awaited information on the elusive WOO WOO STICK!!! Mike, I don`t want to jump line or anything, but if you aren't in the middle of a BIG book deal or anything , would it be out of line to ask for a peek at one of the sacred sticks? If so, please forgive my ignorance , as I am only seeking to advance in this pursuit. I Remain Your Most Humble and Obedient Servant! NateHi Mike,It's sort of a magical crooked stick. It's the only way I can get impossible things done on guns when I'm way out of my skills package. I have several, one for every impossible task that I come up against. I usually move it in a counter clockwise direction while I play Beetles music backwards then right at the end whilst I jump up and down on my left foot I shout Mecka lecka high mecka hiney HOOOO! Then everything just sort of jumps together on it's own. I've been thinking of selling some of my spares on the for sale forum, but I'd probably have to ask too much for them.... :P
What's a "woo woo stick"? I think I may have been whupped by one sometime in my life but I am not sure. Is it anything like a cattle prod?
dave
Although a good example of how a box lid should look, but that particular lid is a replacement as well. Cool that the restorer even thought to put worm holes in it eh? Very clever.
Although a good example of how a box lid should look, but that particular lid is a replacement as well. Cool that the restorer even thought to put worm holes in it eh? Very clever.
Mike , did you make that patch box cover for the restoration?
Justin look at todays blog, Brian Barker rifle third photo down shows what you may be looking for
Here is another reference for you - Original:Although a good example of how a box lid should look, but that particular lid is a replacement as well. Cool that the restorer even thought to put worm holes in it eh? Very clever.
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2Fd7uaFG%2F24313178_2016432428628514_84050422423632488_o.jpg&hash=1543882ca1675815be45710ab4aac87d778d040f) (http://ibb.co/feU9aG)