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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: JSperry on January 20, 2019, 02:55:56 AM

Title: Barrel mark
Post by: JSperry on January 20, 2019, 02:55:56 AM

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Hello,
I am asking if anyone has seen this barrel mark “MR” and if anyone recognizes anything about this patch box.  I believe the gun is from SW Pennsylvania or possibly an early WV gun.  I am hoping to find something to help date this rifle.  The rifle is signed but is not legible.   Thanks
Title: Re: Barrel mark
Post by: JTR on January 20, 2019, 07:55:29 AM
Looks like n interesting gun, but kind of hard to date with nothing more than a picture of a patchbox and a barrel mark....
John
Title: Re: Barrel mark
Post by: JSperry on January 20, 2019, 04:13:27 PM
These are the only other photos I have of this rifle. As can be seen it was an original flint and the barrel has been cut back about 2 inches.  The current barrel length is 46 inches.  Several of the inlays have been removed.  I would love some help on the signature of anyone has any ideas. Thanks
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Title: Re: Barrel mark
Post by: Avlrc on February 19, 2019, 10:09:52 PM
I am kind of surprised as unique as that patch box is that someone on here does not have a clue.  Just guessing but I think Western Pa.  If the barrel maker is a known PA gunsmith & not just a barrel maker, you might try see in how many PA makers match up with those initials.  I just looked and not many.  Real neat rifle, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Barrel mark
Post by: Shreckmeister on February 20, 2019, 06:42:52 PM
Have you seen the stamp in person?  Could it be MR or MK?  It looks more Dauphin County and east to me.
Title: Re: Barrel mark
Post by: Avlrc on February 21, 2019, 01:33:50 AM
I think it is MR.   Maybe Sperry can post some more pics of the whole rifle.  I really like the patchbox.  Love the inkblot Rorschach test piercings in the front panel.  :)
Title: Re: Barrel mark
Post by: vanu on February 21, 2019, 02:19:12 AM
Need more photos to be sure, but kind of looks like it may be a restocked piece with a mix of earlier elements such as the side-plate/early large head/domed lock bolts seem to be inconsistent with the stock architecture; therefore the barrel becomes just one more part of a larger puzzle.

Bruce
Title: Re: Barrel mark
Post by: Shreckmeister on February 21, 2019, 02:31:52 AM
Lock bolts get replaced on the reg