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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: Tolbert on May 04, 2019, 06:08:16 PM

Title: Help identifying old family rifle
Post by: Tolbert on May 04, 2019, 06:08:16 PM
Hello folks, this is my first post and I come asking for help... I have inherited an old shotgun that was removed from the barn on my families homestead in Arkansas in the early 1920’s (when the property was sold). I am trying to ascertain the age and maker of the gun without success. I took it to an antique gun dealer in Dallas and beyond telling me it was Belgian made he was not much help. My dad took it to a gunsmith years ago and I think he took some liberties with some of the parts.

The gun is 48” long, barrel length 32”, bore is 3/4”.
Any information you can provide would be much appreciated!

Thanks, Tolbert
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Title: Re: Help identifying old family rifle
Post by: rich pierce on May 04, 2019, 06:20:33 PM
It’s not a rifle.  It’s a common double barreled 12 ga shotgun.  Thousands of these are found all over.  Seems like every common family out in the country had one.
Title: Re: Help identifying old family rifle
Post by: Tolbert on May 04, 2019, 06:57:22 PM
 Welp, that’s embarrassing, fixed. Do you think the hammers are original? Look to be newer.
Title: Re: Help identifying old family rifle
Post by: WadePatton on May 04, 2019, 07:01:22 PM
Did you check for charges? These things are often found and sometimes handled for years before someone finds out there's a load in the breech. 
Title: Re: Help identifying old family rifle
Post by: T*O*F on May 04, 2019, 07:18:14 PM
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Do you think the hammers are original?
Nope, they've been replaced.  Looks like there is writing on the left hand lock.  Can you read it?

As he said, many are still loaded.  Drop a dowel rod down each barrel and mark it at the muzzle.  Then hold it alongside the barrel and see where it falls.  It should be slightly forward of the nipple.  If more than an inch, it is probably still loaded; usually the left barrel but sometimes both.
Title: Re: Help identifying old family rifle
Post by: Longknife on May 05, 2019, 04:30:21 PM
Put the locks on half cock, remove the two wedges that hold the barrel in the stock by tapping gently from the smaller end,, pull the barrels out of the stock. Now take a picture of the markings on bottom of barrels.....Ed