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General discussion => Contemporary Accoutrements => Topic started by: louieparker on May 07, 2019, 11:10:47 PM

Title: BULL BUFFALO HORN 2
Post by: louieparker on May 07, 2019, 11:10:47 PM
About a year ago I told ilico and Tim that I would never make another St. Louis Powder horn. So now I have gone back on my word.. Sorry about that. 
But I kept looking at the photo of the six St. Louis horns taken at the Museum in St. Louis. The front horn with a different style butt plug intrigued me and offer a challenge. So I found another rough old horn and started the project. For me that butt plug was really a bugger. The inlay work on the spout end was not copied from the original horn.  The horn I started with had some damage that I was afraid to completely remove. I had it rather thin and was afraid to go deeper. But I may after awhile. Not sure.  The original horn is owned by a private collector.(Only one horn in that photo belongs to the museum.The Clark horn). He told me the inlay on the side had the Initials C.C..  He felt it could be for Kit Carson.. Sounds very possible..
Louie
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Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: B.Barker on May 07, 2019, 11:36:18 PM
Fantastic horn Louie. The butt end inlays gives me a headache just thinking about it.
Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: Tim Crosby on May 07, 2019, 11:39:09 PM
 WOW! Not sure what else to say, That is wonderful work. Man...

   Tim
Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: Marcruger on May 08, 2019, 12:52:05 AM
I just showed it to my wife. She said, “It’s GORGEOUS!”  I have to agree. I cannot imagine the amount of inlay time. You are very very patient. Most excellent. God bless, Marc
Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: snapper on May 08, 2019, 01:58:38 AM
Sweet!

Fleener
Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: smokinbuck on May 08, 2019, 02:53:18 AM
Very very nice horn. You have more patience, and talent, than most of us. BTW, how does the "CC" horn get attributed to Kit Carson, "KC"?
MARK
Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: iloco on May 08, 2019, 04:13:38 AM
That Horn is Awesome.  You are a very gifted person.  What more can I say.
Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: Cades Cove Fiddler on May 08, 2019, 05:16:31 AM
 ;) ;)... Mark,... "Kit" was his nickname,..... his true given name was "Christopher",.... hence,..."C C".... regards,.... CCF...
Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: smylee grouch on May 08, 2019, 06:00:58 AM
Stunning! Great work Louie
Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: PIKELAKE on May 08, 2019, 04:20:45 PM
There is a lot of hours in that horn. Well done!      JZ
Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: Arcturus on May 08, 2019, 06:43:36 PM
Wow is right! That is super! 
Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: smokinbuck on May 08, 2019, 07:03:55 PM
You are right about "Kit". I new that, just another senior moment.
Mark
Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: Top Jaw on May 08, 2019, 07:29:02 PM
That is inspiring top notch work, Louie.  Well done!
Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on May 08, 2019, 07:38:58 PM
The inlay work is spectacular for sure.  But I also must remark on the work done to reduce the horn inside and out to make the thickness appropriate to heat and install the butt plug.  Bison horns are not like cow horns, either in thickness or in texture.  Working them is very hard.

Wonderful work Louis!
Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: louieparker on May 09, 2019, 02:27:45 AM
Thanks for the nice comments..It certainly was a time consuming project.. I knew it would be..The main reason I made it was
to see what I could do in copying the plug.  Sort of a pleasure watching it take shape. But probably more looking  at it finished,,,  Louie
Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: Martin S. on May 09, 2019, 06:46:00 PM
Stunning and fantastic!  Wonderful craftsmanship.  It is hard to find words to describe the quality of this work of art.  Simply amazing.

Well done and thanks for posting.
Title: Re: BULL BFFALO HORN 2
Post by: hawkeye on May 09, 2019, 08:52:19 PM
Incredible job you did there, I love it
Hawkeye
Title: Re: BULL BUFFALO HORN 2
Post by: jdm on May 11, 2019, 04:16:07 PM
Louie, That is stunning! Your talent never ceases to amaze me.   Just think how much better you will be when you get a little older and have  more experience  .  That's great!  Jim
Title: Re: BULL BUFFALO HORN 2
Post by: louieparker on May 11, 2019, 05:18:59 PM
jdm.... Thanks !  I may get a bit older but not sure about the experience part....LP
Title: Re: BULL BUFFALO HORN 2
Post by: louieparker on May 11, 2019, 05:44:55 PM
I forgot to mention something about the original horn.. More than one thing unique about that horn. All the inlay work in the butt plug was  surrounded with very thin brass.  Meaning each of the colors were separated  by very thin sheet brass.  This is the only one of these horns that I have seen this on.. I spoke to two other collectors who own and have studied other horns and neither have seen this on another horn.  When I started to do the plug I got out some shim brass and thought I would do it..  Then I had another thought and put it back in the drawer.......Louie
Title: Re: BULL BUFFALO HORN 2
Post by: Craig Wilcox on May 11, 2019, 09:33:47 PM
Louie, there is a style of decoration called "cloisonné" in which a very thin band of gold or silver is used, with glass or cut gem stone material making up the design.  It uses some very small tools to bend the metal.  So you may search for "Cloisonné" making or tools.  Would probably have to anneal the brass pretty frequently.  Junctions are made with very low-temp solder.

That is a fantastic black and white horn that you made, and my mind is reeling at the complexity of the simplicity involved, if you can understand that!  Plain ol' black and white - but what a fantastic job of blending them!
Title: Re: BULL BUFFALO HORN 2
Post by: louieparker on May 12, 2019, 04:11:40 PM
Craig, Thanks !   I have never work the  "cloisonné" process. But have seen the results. Not sure how the horn and bone pieces were wrapped in brass.  But I doubt it was attached to the wood butt plug. I figured it was held by pressure between the pieces and maybe some sort of glue.. But that is only a guess.  On the original horn some of the brass can now felt above the inlay....LP
Title: Re: BULL BUFFALO HORN 2
Post by: One Eye on May 12, 2019, 04:45:06 PM
Gorgeous craftsmanship Louie!
One Eye
Title: Re: BULL BUFFALO HORN 2
Post by: Bob McBride on May 12, 2019, 05:08:13 PM
Spectacular.
Title: Re: BULL BUFFALO HORN 2
Post by: Clark Badgett on May 12, 2019, 07:15:52 PM
Absolutely breath taking.