Author Topic: Rupp Style Nosecap  (Read 11766 times)

Offline David Rase

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4320
  • If we need it here, make it here. Charlie Daniels
Rupp Style Nosecap
« on: September 10, 2015, 01:38:58 AM »
Earlier this year, while attending the 18th Century Artisan's Show, I asked a couple of accomplished builders of the Allentown rifle how they went about making the open ended nose cap that shows up on many of the Lehigh Valley rifles.  I listened to what they had to say and last week I finally got around to making one for a Rupp influenced rifle that is currently on my workbench.  I hope you all enjoy reading the following post on how I went about making the nosecap.


This first picture shows how I prepared the forestock to receive the nosecap.  One of the problems a lot of builders have when inletting a nosecap is obtaining a good enough wood to metal fit to keep the nosecap tight without the use of epoxy or other glues to fill gaps and hold the nosecap secure.  After determining the material thickness of the nosecap, I remove the same amount of wood from the forestock of the rifle.  To ensure I do not get any dips, tapers or low spots in the wood during wood removal, I use my adjustable T-square to check for squareness.  You can see in the above photo that I place the head of the square on the muzzle of the rifle to ensure the inlet is perpendicular to the barrel.  In this case, I am using .015" thick brass.  I use the nosecap material to check the depth of the inlet.


This next photo shows the .015" brass material.  You can easily cut .015" brass with a good pair of tin snips mush easier, neater and safer than using a hack saw.  You will need to anneal the brass after cutting out your piece for the nosecap.



Here is a picture of the fixture I made to form the groove for the ramrod and get the corners nice and tight and square.   I made this fixture from a block of aluminum but you could probably get away with a hard piece of maple.  Since my ramrod was 5/16" diameter and my material is .015" I drilled an 11/32" hole near the edge of the block.  Next I sawed a couple of flats that intersected the middle of the 11/32" hole.  I did not measure the included angle but it is somewhere around 90 degrees.  The angle is not important, what matters is that you have sharp corners at the ramrod groove to side angle intersection.  My block is about 2" long by 1 1/2" wide. 


This photo shows the annealed brass sandwiched in my vise between a 5/16" mild steel rod and the 11/32" groove in the aluminum block.  Make sure you take the time to line everything up and ensure the groove is perpendicular (90o) to the long edge of the brass blank.


You can see in the above photo that the corner is tight, sharp and square.  I used a piece of polished brass about 1/2" x 1 1/2" by 2" long to form the tight corner.


After repeating the bending process on the second side this is what your nosecap should look like.


Using the 5/16" mild steel rod to hold the nosecap in place on the stock, start to form the sides of the nosecap by gently bending them around the curves of the forestock.  Do not bend too far at this time.  You can see in this photo the wood that was removed from the inside of the inlet.


Continue bending 1 side of the nosecap up and over the top corner of the forestock and start to form the inner curve.  Since the brass is still soft from annealing, you can use your thumb and fingers to get the nosecap formed to this rough shape.



Now place the barrel back into the stock.  Slide a hose clamp over the nosecap, barrel and the 5/16" mild steel rod.  2 aluminum scraps are used on the lower flat area to distribute the pressure of the hose clamp and keep the .015"  sheet brass from becoming dinged and dented.  I have used pieces of wood in the past with good results.  I just happened to have the aluminum sitting around.  Tighten up the hose clamp enough to draw the barrel down into the stock and start forming the brass to the inlet.  Do not over tighten the hose clamps as you will need some movement for the brass when you sharpen up the bend in the next step.


Using that same piece of polished brass block I used to form the ramrod channel corners in photo 5, I start massaging the nosecap to tighten up and sharpen up the upper corner.


This photo shows me continuing to form the radius and sharp corner.  You will have to loosen and tighten the hose clamp a couple of times so you can slide it forward and aft exposing the nosecap that was under the hose clamp so you can bend the radius and sharpen the bend the entire length of the nosecap.


This is how the nosecap should look after you remove the hose clamp.   Since I was using an octagon to round barrel I choose not to have an overlapping seam in the barrel channel.  I initially tried an overlapping seam and filed a scarf on both ends of the brass but the joint looked too bulky so I opted for a butt joint.    The faint pencil line you see is the center line of the barrel channel.  I removed the excess metal until my nosecap seam was centered in the inlet.


Now repeat the clamping, bending, forming and tightening   process for the other side.  Don't forget to remove the excess metal to form a butt joint at the nosecap centerline seam.



Here you see the completed nosecap.  I removed the nosecap and soldered the seam together.  I then slide it back on and made sure the rear of the nosecap was tight against the stock.  Once the inlet was tight I filed the forward end flush with the forestock end. 


Straight on muzzle view of the completed nosecap.  All that is left is to remove the barrel and drill 2 holes on the side flats through the stock and inner nosecap material and rivet the nosecap permanently to the forestock.



Another view of the completed nosecap. 





« Last Edit: August 14, 2018, 03:40:12 AM by David Rase »

Offline Topknot

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 463
    • www.yahoo.com
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2015, 02:14:56 AM »
David, Cool way of making nose cap . I like it.

                                          topknot

P.s..... This should be put in the tutorials file!!
TIM COMPTON, SR.

    layover to catch meddlers!

Offline C Wallingford

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 863
  • Northern Kentucky
    • CW Knives
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2015, 02:17:15 AM »
Very nice job Dave!

Offline Acer Saccharum

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19311
    • Thomas  A Curran
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2015, 02:21:29 AM »
Egads, you're so compulsive, Rase!

This is jewelry quality work.
Tom Curran's web site : http://monstermachineshop.net
Ramrod scrapers are all sold out.

Offline flatsguide

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 854
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2015, 03:31:33 AM »
Very nice clean work. Looks top notch.
Regards, Richard

Offline BOB HILL

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2281
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2015, 04:03:07 AM »
Very nice David. Thank you for posting.

Bob
South Carolina Lowcountry

Offline John Archer

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 364
  • I solemnly swear that I am up to no good
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2015, 04:24:42 AM »
David...this is great stuff!
The instructions are given in a clear, thoughtful, manner accompanied by good photography...it doesn't get any better than this.
Thank you for posting.

John.
I cannot be left unsupervised.
(Sent from my immobile dial-operated telephone)

L Moler

  • Guest
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2015, 07:50:40 AM »
Great tutorial Dave.. 

Offline Mike Brooks

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13415
    • Mike Brooks Gunmaker
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2015, 01:30:25 PM »
Never considered how those were made, lots of work! Makes me tired just thinking about it.... :P
NEW WEBSITE! www.mikebrooksflintlocks.com
Say, any of you boys smithies? Or, if not smithies per se, were you otherwise trained in the metallurgic arts before straitened circumstances forced you into a life of aimless wanderin'?

Offline WKevinD

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1428
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2015, 02:44:03 PM »
Very nice!

What can you tell me about that front sight?

Kevin
PEACE is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.  Thomas Jefferson

Offline David Rase

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4320
  • If we need it here, make it here. Charlie Daniels
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2015, 03:28:20 PM »
Very nice!

What can you tell me about that front sight?

Kevin
Kevin,
As you may or may not see, the front sight is a piece of brass that has been soldered to the barrel.  To add strength to the joint, a groove the width and length of the sight was cut into the barrel using a narrow flat  engraving chisel.  The depth of the groove is probably .030".  Once installed, I try to get a fit tight enough that the blade must be lightly tapped in, the sight is soldered to the barrel with silver bearing (stay bright) solder.  Leaving the blade flat on the top until installed helps with installation.
David

Offline Benedict

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 261
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2015, 04:14:51 PM »
Great work.  It looks great.  I am wondering what your thoughts are on how the originals were done as they would not have had hose clamps to use?  At least I don't think they had hose clamps in the 1700's.

thanks,  Bruce

Offline Swampwalker

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 387
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2015, 05:11:05 PM »
Another great tutorial, thanks!  Question, while you wrapped the material all the way around and even soldered the ends together, is it not more typical that the 'wrap' ends on the inner sidewall of the barrel inlet? 

Offline D. Taylor Sapergia

  • Member 3
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12671
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2015, 07:31:16 PM »
David:  this is typical of your work and an inspiration to all of us unworthies.  I honestly would never have believed that .015" stock would be applicable, but I was wrong.  Thanks for your contributions.
D. Taylor Sapergia
www.sapergia.blogspot.com

Art is not an object.  It is the excitement inspired by the object.

Offline David Rase

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4320
  • If we need it here, make it here. Charlie Daniels
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2015, 11:45:53 PM »
David:  this is typical of your work and an inspiration to all of us unworthies.  I honestly would never have believed that .015" stock would be applicable, but I was wrong.  Thanks for your contributions.
Taylor,
I was leery about using .015" myself.  I really wanted .020" but I was impatient and bought the thinner material from a local hobby shop instead of ordering .020" from Seattle.  The .015" really felt thin when I initially cut the sheet but when it was all said and done, I was very happy with the end product of the .015" brass. 
Note:
I tried making a cap out of some .030" a while ago and the thicker brass did not give me the sharp corners I was looking for.  I started filing them and ended up getting some pretty unsightly thin spots in the metal.   
David
« Last Edit: September 11, 2015, 03:54:08 AM by David Rase »

Offline PPatch

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2456
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2015, 12:06:17 AM »
I can see so many ways that whole thing would go sideways if I were attempting it... Beautiful work Dave.

dave
Dave Parks   /   Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Offline Tony N

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 645
  • Rabbit Hash,Ky
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2015, 12:07:56 AM »
As someone who is always learning on this site, I find this amazing!

Thank you for taking the time to post this!

~Tony

Offline Glenn

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 507
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2015, 02:38:42 AM »
Great job.  Thank you for taking the time to share this.
Many of them cried; "Me no Alamo - Me no Goliad", and for most of them these were the last words they spoke.

Offline Joe S.

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1990
  • the other Joe S.
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2015, 03:12:21 AM »
I'm always being impressed by the craftsmanship you folks do on this site and the willingness to share the knowledge to boot.Thanks,that's some mighty fine work.

Offline Clark Badgett

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2257
  • Oklahoma
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2015, 04:38:50 AM »
That is a nice write up. Always liked that nosecap style
Psalms 144

Offline Curtis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2338
  • Missouri
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2015, 05:35:30 AM »
Dave, top notch work and a top notch tutorial to boot!  Fabulous job!

Curtis
Curtis Allinson
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sometimes, late at night when I am alone in the inner sanctum of my workshop and no one else can see, I sand things using only my fingers for backing

Offline Daryl

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15832
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2015, 05:59:33 AM »
Well Done, David. All of this is beyond me, but I enjoyed reading about it.
Spot-on - truly well done.
An inspiration to builders - and wonderful for us non-builders to understand just what is involved in this work. WOW!

Only on ALR.
Daryl

"a gun without hammers is like a spaniel without ears" King George V

Offline smart dog

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 7014
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2015, 02:44:17 PM »
Very well done, Dave!  That is the clearest and best tutorial I've seen on making a complex muzzlecap.  Your workmanship is outstanding. No wonder everyone raves about your barrel inletting service.

dave
"The main accomplishment of modern economics is to make astrology look good."

Offline smallpatch

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4107
  • Dane Lund
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2015, 06:44:14 PM »
Nice job David.  But your timing stinks..... I just finished one on my grandsons ultra skinny Lehigh you did the barrel channel on.
I'd appreciate it, if next time you did your tutorial BEFORE I need it!

Nice job my friend..... Way nicer than the one I just did.
In His grip,

Dane

Offline J. Talbert

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2309
Re: Rupp Style Nosecap
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2015, 04:12:00 AM »
Well shoot,  I just assumed everybody did it that way.   ;D

Good stuff Dave!

Jeff
There are no solutions.  There are only trade-offs.”
Thomas Sowell