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Offline Hurricane ( of Virginia)

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"J. H. Smith Lancaster, PA" stamped horn
« on: March 16, 2016, 09:12:25 PM »
Seeking historical information on this commercial 19C. horner of Lancaster. I have a horn stamped on the plug and a metal band J.H. Smith Lancaster, PA
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Offline Shreckmeister

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Re: "J. H. Smith Lancaster, PA" stamped horn
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2016, 09:16:49 PM »
Could you start by telling us what you know?  What makes you think he was a horner and not
the owner?  Have others surfaced?  Got pictures?
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Re: "J. H. Smith Lancaster, PA" stamped horn
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2016, 03:22:09 AM »
I have seen several stamped by Smith, had horn shop in Lancaster
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Re: "J. H. Smith Lancaster, PA" stamped horn
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2016, 05:55:26 AM »
What is that collar in front of the butt plug made of...brass?
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Re: "J. H. Smith Lancaster, PA" stamped horn
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2016, 04:38:08 PM »
Collar is brass, I believe.
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Offline Jerry V Lape

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Re: "J. H. Smith Lancaster, PA" stamped horn
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2016, 08:33:24 PM »
What is the butt plug made of.  It appears to have the texture of leather?  The plug looks to be machine made and the diagonal design on the base is very regular and along with the edges of the circles gives the impression it may have been some sort of composition formed with a die?  Or leather stamped with tools?  I like it. 
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Re: "J. H. Smith Lancaster, PA" stamped horn
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2016, 05:18:14 PM »
The plug is a "light weight" would that is stained but does have the appearance of a "leathery" texture. Totally foreign to me but I have little knowledge of horns. Carving appears pressed as does that of another priming Lancaster horn I have with a "rope" design but not "leathery" and it is unsigned. Was hoping someone knows some historical info????about Smith???
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Offline Clark Badgett

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Re: "J. H. Smith Lancaster, PA" stamped horn
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2016, 07:32:20 PM »
Quote from: Hurricane ( of Virginia) on March 20, 2016, 05:18:14 PM
The plug is a "light weight" would that is stained but does have the appearance of a "leathery" texture. Totally foreign to me but I have little knowledge of horns. Carving appears pressed as does that of another priming Lancaster horn I have with a "rope" design but not "leathery" and it is unsigned. Was hoping someone knows some historical info????about Smith???

It does look like tooled leather now that you mention it. Could it be a leather covered plug?
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Re: "J. H. Smith Lancaster, PA" stamped horn
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2016, 09:12:35 PM »
After further examination, I think it is aged cracked varnish or shellac over a stained plug. There is a small scraped area on the plug edge that looks like fresh "white/yellowish" wood grain.
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Re: "J. H. Smith Lancaster, PA" stamped horn
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2016, 10:13:25 PM »
 If you have a copy of Art DeCamp's book Great book,
 Pennsylvania "Horns of the Trade" Screw-tip Powder Horns and Their Architecture
 You will find reference to J. H. Smith and a couple of his horns on page 214-219.

    Tim C.
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