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Offline tlallijr

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T F White Rifle....pic heavy
« on: April 08, 2016, 04:19:35 AM »
My buddy picked up this rifle from a friend who says it belonged to his Grandfather and was pretty sure he had the rifle for a long time. Like at least 25 or 30 years or maybe longer but he's not sure. It looks well built and I wanted to share some pics to see if anyone can identify the lock or can tell me about the builder. Pretty neat rifle in .36 caliber.  Thanks  Tony











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Offline oldtravler61

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Re: T F White Rifle....pic heavy
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2016, 04:35:00 AM »
Tlallijr, who ever this builder is. He is a real craftsman. That is excellent rifle. Imho
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Offline Bob Roller

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Re: T F White Rifle....pic heavy
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2016, 02:34:41 PM »
That lock MIGHT be one made by a man with the last name of Vance in the 1960's.
Also possibly Chet Shoults when he started making locks again in 1967. I know it's
not one of mine.

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Re: T F White Rifle....pic heavy
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2016, 02:37:48 PM »
Wow that's a very nice rifle.  Some very high-end work there 
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Offline Bob Roller

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Re: T F White Rifle....pic heavy
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2016, 02:38:18 PM »

There was a man,Tom White that was known for fine powder horns and this rifle could
be one of his jobs.I think he lived in Ohio and may still be alive. Log cabin Shop in Lodi,
Ohio may know more about him.

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« Last Edit: April 08, 2016, 03:25:34 PM by Tim Crosby »
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Offline smylee grouch

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Re: T F White Rifle....pic heavy
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2016, 02:50:18 PM »
I don't have my copy of Meeks engraving book in front of me but IIRC there was a man named White pictured in there who was an outstanding craftsman .
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Re: T F White Rifle....pic heavy
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2016, 04:40:29 PM »
Hi,
A rifle by Thomas White (Worthington, Ohio) is shown in Robert Weil's book "Contemporary Makers of Muzzle Loading Firearms". He is not the engraver featured in Meek's book.

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Offline Gary Tucker

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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2016, 05:28:52 PM »
That lock is definately one that Stan Hollenbaugh makes.  Wonderful lock.  Very fast with hand forged springs.  I've used 3 of them over the years and was really pleased.  Stan used to post on this site but haven't seen anything from him lately.
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Re: T F White Rifle....pic heavy
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2016, 05:53:09 PM »
Quote from: G. T. on April 08, 2016, 05:28:52 PM
That lock is definately one that Stan Hollenbaugh makes.  Wonderful lock.  Very fast with hand forged springs.  I've used 3 of them over the years and was really pleased.  Stan used to post on this site but haven't seen anything from him lately.

 Thanks GT that's it. It is a very nice little lock, that's why I asked. I particularly like the blind hole for the sear spring and it really snaps off with the powerful main spring.
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2016, 07:16:09 PM »
I like the way the patch box hinge is made, very nice.

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Re: T F White Rifle....pic heavy
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2016, 10:12:43 PM »
Outstanding!! :)
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Offline elk killer

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Re: T F White Rifle....pic heavy
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2016, 01:43:42 PM »
Tom White is featured in the book Steel Canvas by R Wilson
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Re: T F White Rifle....pic heavy
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2016, 06:56:33 PM »
  I have the book "Steel Canvas" but could not find Thomas White in the reference !!
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2016, 08:50:27 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2016, 09:58:30 PM »
Quote from: J Henry on April 09, 2016, 06:56:33 PM
  I have the book "Steel Canvas" but could not find Thomas White in the reference !!
Hi
I suspect that is because the gun engraver shown in Wilson's and Meek's books is not Tom White, it is Alvin A. White.

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Re: T F White Rifle....pic heavy
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2016, 11:41:59 PM »
My error
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2016, 03:36:22 PM »
The lock looks like a Bob Ditchburn lock, Stan was an apprentice for Bob and bought out Ditchburn several years ago. This very nice rifle looks to have been made in the 60's or 70's.
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Offline c deperro

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Re: T F White Rifle....pic heavy
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2016, 06:10:53 PM »
I believe in Fox Fire 5 there is a section on Robert Watts and they mention Tom White as his apprentice. If memory serves me correctly.
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Offline art riser

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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2016, 11:08:41 PM »
Tom White was not Watts apprentice.
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« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2016, 01:45:14 AM »
Art is correct. I went back and looked it up Robert Watts had an assistant named Tom Hayes . So much for memory i guess. 
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