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Re: Berselli Repeating Flintlocks
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2017, 11:35:30 PM »
I got to work with a pair of Lorenzoni-Berselli pistols not too long ago. Let me see if I can recall this correctly. The "wheel" or "drum" at the breech has two chambers that pick up powder and the ball from separate "magazines" on the left side of the gun. You aim the gun towards the ground since the ball and powder simply used gravity to feed into the chambers and rotate the "crank" lever forward and then backward. When you are cracking forward, a ball is loaded in the chamber from the wheel at the breech, and when you pull it back towards you, powder that was picked up by the second chamber as you rotated it forward is dropping in behind the ball. The pan is also primed and the hammer is cocked as you pulled the crank back. The fit of all the parts had to be very tight to ensure hot gas did not leak back into the powder reservoir and turn the gun into a grenade. Regardless of how well things fit, I don't think I would have felt remotely safe shooting one. They would have fired much faster than anything else available at the time and some could hold quite a few shots. The American Cookson repeaters used the same basic idea.
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Re: Berselli Repeating Flintlocks
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2017, 11:44:52 PM »
I've alway suspected that the catastrophic failures that no doubt happened with some guns of this,and similar, designs my have inspired the building of the early air guns like the one taken on the Lewis and Clark expedition.

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Re: Berselli Repeating Flintlocks
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2017, 12:21:57 AM »
It might have been, but these repeating flintlocks were still manufactured at the same time as the air rifles, and I have never seen any evidence of any of these repeating pistols or rifles actually did explode. The biggest advantages of the air rifles aside from the rate of fire is that they use air instead of black powder. They don't need powder or flints and don't have the issue of fouling. Thus, they can be fired at a high rate without having to worry about the bore or mechanism locking up from powder residue.
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Re: Berselli Repeating Flintlocks
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2017, 01:36:18 AM »
  Chris an H.H very unique firearm. When I was in St. Louis a few year's ago. Got to get an up close look at the air gun that was carried by the expedition. According to the information it truly amazed the Native Americans. Thanks again. Mike

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Re: Berselli Repeating Flintlocks
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2017, 09:07:55 PM »
There is an extant Mortimer-made, Lorenzoni pattern repeating pistol with one side blown out.

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Re: Berselli Repeating Flintlocks
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2017, 04:01:20 PM »
Interesting! How bad is the damage on it?
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Re: Berselli Repeating Flintlocks
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2017, 06:40:09 PM »
There is an extant Mortimer-made, Lorenzoni pattern repeating pistol with one side blown out.

Darn 12L14 anyway!
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