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Offline Bigmon

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Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« on: April 12, 2017, 10:10:30 PM »
Am finishing up a rifle that I have used as an exercise, so to say.  I started getting back into building some guns and didnt want to mess up too bad.  So I am building a longrifle that isnt turning out too bad considering...
Here is my delema.  I used a Green Mt barrel that was already breached and the Green Mt mark and 36 cal are right on the top flat, about two inches in front of the breach.
I tried a little draw filing to see how hard it might be to get rid of it.
Not so easy.  Before I take it completley off I thought I'd check for opinions.
I dont think it will weaken the barrel, but I do not want a visible low area either??
I guess it is an experiment and I could just see what happens??
Thanks to any replys

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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2017, 10:32:09 PM »
I have removed several modern markings on barrels by carefully peening the stamps and then draw filing it.
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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2017, 11:19:54 PM »
Remove ~ 1/32" from the end of the barrel and the end of the plug, and turn the plug 1/2 turn so the stamps are on the bottom.  Go easy after the first .020" and try/fit it often as you remove metal.
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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2017, 04:47:22 AM »
Wish I knew how to post photos on here.
I tried the slow chlorox treatment on that barrel with a few ideas of my own, which usually end in failure.
But not this time.
I don't think I could have paid anyone to finish this barrel and it would have made me any more happy.
At last something turns out right.
Which isnt much for me these days.

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Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2017, 03:54:40 PM »
I had the same problem on my last rifle, I seemed to be chasing my tail on getting the plug seated properly. Somehow I ended up with the company logo on the top oblique flat right in front of the lock.

I used a small drift and a zillion light taps to close the letters up and draw filed them off easily.

They are completely gone.


Offline P.W.Berkuta

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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2017, 06:39:26 PM »
I'd leave it alone unless it is for a customer that dislikes it - if it's going to be mine - who cares what others think. One way to look at it is you will never forget the caliber or manufacture of the barrel ;D.
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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2017, 08:31:04 PM »
Here we go!!  MAn I love this sight.
Dennis, yer the greatest.  It is wonderful in this day and age to deal with someone that obviously actually cares about doing something right.
Wish I could get similiar results on my gun builds.  I try, but am just too crude.  Now my eyes are failing.  So things are not gonna get better.
But I am very happy with this barrel finish.
Thanks for the web site









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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2017, 08:57:56 PM »
Bigmon,

That rifle looks pretty darn good to me.  You mentioned using chlorox on the barrel, but how did you get that great looking patterning?  Fine looking rifle.

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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2017, 09:13:50 PM »
+1 one the barrel question.

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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2017, 09:53:30 PM »
I tore up an old towel in about 3/8" strips and sewed the pc end to end until I had enough to wrap round the barrel in a spiral leaving a little gap between.
Kept soaking with full strength outdoor type chlorox (thats just what I happen to have).  I let the metal get dry but not the rag wrap.
Oh, also when wrapping I kept twisting so it was not flat all over.
And once at about four days or so, I happened to have a dead yard tractor battery and I took out enough acid with a big eye dropper and soaked the wrap just once, and in between.
Be sure yer out side when ya do this. It foams up real neat.
After one week, scrub er down with brillo and a bucket of hot water, hard.  It will take it.
Then rubbed with 0000 steel wool and motor oil.
It is the first one I ever did.

As for the complete rifle, you'll notice I didnt show any close ups!!
I just cannot see like I did.  But I never was a real builder like these guys today.
But I sort of imagine my guns are allot like the old ones.  Lots of little misques, but function and shoot well.
And put the meat on the table

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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2017, 05:33:47 AM »
Thanks for sharing your technique Bigmon.  I shall give it a try very soon.  BTW, the other gun you showed looks pretty nice too.

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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2017, 02:17:12 PM »
I am trying, just wish I were better at it.
I need better tools also.
Really didnt want to get too deep into this but people keep asking me to build em' a gun.
Years back I built a very few for myself, then my three Sons.
Now I have three Grandsons and wanna build one for them to use as they grow into full sized.
That last rifle is a .62 cal Oct / Rd rifle for a friends son in the army.



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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2017, 06:16:44 PM »
Bigmon,  I love that barrel finish! Your guns look great.
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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2017, 06:56:09 PM »
I have a new idea I'm gonna try on the next one.
I was looking at a book on how the old Yeager barrels were made by weaving the thinner metal strips before wrapping on the mandrel before forging.
I am going to try weaving heavy cord or thinner strips of cloth and then wrapping.
Might even try on just some scrap first??

Here is one I did last year with a round barrel I picked up at a gun show that the outside had never been shapped.  It was about 1.75 inches in dia and mill scale.
But the bore looked like the inside of a civil war rifled musket and 58 cal.  Three lands and three grooves.
So I had a friend with a large taoering lathe shape the outside the same a a repro musket, fit a breach plug and went from there.
It shoots 510 gr CW mini balls great as well as round balls.
Perfect for deer hunting here in Pa.
This was my first build since the 80's and you can tell.
But things are getting a little better, maybe.
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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2017, 07:02:00 PM »
Bigmon, Nice looking guns!!             Nate

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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2017, 07:14:41 PM »
I been looking for these pics.
This is a gun I did before taking all those years off.  I think in the 90's.
I took these photos of this gun cause the one I made last year for my friends son in the army, they wanted the same style, caliber, barrel, lock, etc.
The pics are not real clear but the work is allot better.
Still no where near the quality these guys are putting out now a days.
But functional.








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Re: Advise please on barrel finishing.........
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2017, 04:10:50 AM »
Your work looks good to me,too,neighbor!!!At least you are still havin at it! I ,also,took 25 or so years away from building longrifles:life,children,cars,motorcycles,other experiences . Got back into this in 2008,have built 15/20 since.Each one gets better,but like most of us ol boys,the eyes,hands aint what they wuz.Made a good life and living with them,glad they still work as well as they do.
Keep at it ,bro. You have Much to be proud of!! Dave on the mountain.  8)