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Re: Bucks County rifle.....
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2017, 04:48:38 PM »
Hi Ed,
Thanks for the description of your incised accents.  I finish my guns almost exactly as you do except I use polymerixed tung oil.  The one point I would emphasize to others thinking about using rottenstone to rub back the stock is you must let the finish dry hard or you risk rubbing off the finish.  I often let my stocks dry a week before rubbing depending on the weather.

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« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2017, 04:54:35 PM »
One of my all-time favorite schools, thanks for sharing!
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« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2017, 04:55:25 PM »
Ed,

Beautiful rifle!  I love it!

And thanks for the descriptions of your methods.  I took notes!

Best Regards,

JMC
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« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2017, 05:04:36 PM »
Ed, All of the superlatives are appropriate ,you really did a SUPER !! job on this one . As all of your work I`ve viewed  this is another one I wish was mine . I  think  that a larger lock always looks better than one on the smaller side . Thanks for posting . VERY NICE!!!      Nate

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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2017, 05:40:27 PM »
Ed, I'm copying and printing your sealing process for my gun building bench book.  Such dissertations are why I'm here--plus the opportunity to look at great guns and convos w/ great people.

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« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2017, 06:17:37 PM »
Fred..., sorry I missed your question as to when the original was thought to be made.  If I recall correctly, it was attributed to the 1780's-1790's time frame.  Curtis might remember better than me as to what Jack told us....

Phip..., thanks, kudos to Bill Shipman for sharing his technique.

Dave..., I usually let the last coat set up a little more than what I do between the wipe coats, usually at least over night, but have found I like the Permalyn to be a little "soft" when I rub it back.  I agree, you need to be careful, but I've found it goes a little easier.  Plus, I'm way too lazy and impatient to wait a week for just about anything, lol....

Thanks again!

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« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2017, 07:09:39 PM »
Superlative work Ed!  Your incised carving is flawless in both design and execution.  This is a most worthy rifle!!
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« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2017, 07:34:04 PM »
Ed,
As usual a beautiful work!!  That could easily become my favorite rifle. The incised carving is incredible..... I would pass out from holding my breath trying to do that much....and dreaming about it coming out so well.
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« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2017, 10:20:08 PM »
Beautiful rifle and fantasic insized carving.

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« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2017, 10:22:08 PM »
     I can't say anything that hasn't already been said but it's so beautiful I had to say something.  Great job.   Al
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« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2017, 11:48:13 PM »
Thank you for sharing how you put the stock finish on. What finish did you use for the lock and barrel?
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« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2017, 02:05:24 AM »
Timothy..., the lock and barrel were cold blued with Birchwood Casey's Super Blue, then rubbed back with a maroon colored scotch brite pad to the desired "wear", and color.


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« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2017, 02:17:42 AM »
Great looking rifle Ed
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« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2017, 02:41:01 AM »
Hi Ed,
     I immediately recognized your gun for being based on the one owned by Don H. in Arkansas.  I photographed the original at a KRA show. I made a copy, this gun and another exact copy were the ones used by DiCaprio in the Revenant movie.   The original has a different style sideplate, the tang carving is a bit higher relief and the behind the cheekpiece carving is also relived in a couple of areas.  When I initially saw the original I named it "the Petite Bucks Co. gun."   I found that Jim Chambers Golden Age lock to be an almost exact match for the original lock.   It is a very outstanding Bucks Co. guns, probably in the top five Bucks Co. guns that I can think of.   
      You did an outstanding job with your take on the gun...you have progressed along your journey very nicely.

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« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2017, 04:34:07 AM »
Ed,
 Always enjoy seeing your work.

Fantastic Bucks County!

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« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2017, 04:43:29 AM »
Beautiful,  great work

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« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2017, 07:00:58 AM »
Very cool rifle. Agree with Taylor's comments. Really like the lock. In fact if you erased the detail in the frizzen spring, few would know where it came from.

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« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2017, 12:53:44 PM »
Ed, thank you for the dissertation. No apology needed for that. That was what i was looking for. That will certainly be saved in my notes. Thanks again!  Mikeh
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« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2017, 03:36:20 PM »
 Very Well done Ed, a Beauty. Shoot it... $#*!, I'd just as soon sit there and look at it.

  Tim

 PS: I'm with ya on the lock. TC

 

 

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« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2017, 08:23:11 PM »
Ed,
Love the rifle, the work/carving is fantastic but I can't say the same for the lock but if that's close to what the original has then that's ok but I would prefer an early Ketland.
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« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2017, 10:43:28 PM »
Wow!  Love those Bucks County guns.  Beautiful.
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« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2017, 02:42:17 AM »
That is an exceptional Bucks County rifle!
 Good work.

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« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2017, 03:25:41 AM »
Fred..., sorry I missed your question as to when the original was thought to be made.  If I recall correctly, it was attributed to the 1780's-1790's time frame.  Curtis might remember better than me as to what Jack told us....

Ed (and Fred) - If I remember correctly I believe the original is thought to have been made around the 1800-1805 range.

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« Reply #48 on: April 29, 2017, 03:30:41 AM »
Thanks, Curtis, that makes sense, and also sounds familiar now that you mention it...

Thanks again, all.  The rifle arrived safe & sound today to it's new home, always a good feeling...



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« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2017, 04:42:32 PM »
I agree with all the comments so far, and will add...MOST EXCELLENT! I've done a couple versions of that rifle and have started another on my bench right now. Hope it turns out as nice as yours.
Tom C.