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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2017, 09:28:10 PM »
Hi Runastav,
I think you have it about right.  Below is a photo showing a Pedersoli Bess lock at full cock after I modified the tumbler.


Also Runastav, although the spring on the Pedersoli above is crude, note that I improved it by making sure the lower leaf of the spring is straight when the lock is at full cock rather than showing an upward bend in the middle of the leaf. I did that by pinching the main bend a little tighter and bending the lower leaf of the spring into a slight downward arc (preload). The photos below of a lock I made show what I mean.  I made the mainspring from scratch and shaped it so the tension at full cock is not concentrated at the middle of lower leaf.



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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2017, 06:02:52 PM »
Hi Guys! And thank you smart dog for nice photo maby I do the same after avile ;)So is the hammer done, and I ask wat steel is in the TOTW frizzen? Oil hardening or case hardening steel???
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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2017, 01:42:49 PM »
So is the hammer done, and I ask wat steel is in the TOTW frizzen? Oil hardening or case hardening steel???
Runar



Hi,
I believe you could harden the frizzen either way, however, I find that when I case harden them they spark better.

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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2017, 07:42:05 PM »
Hi All and thank you smart dog I will do. So is frizzen and spring in place I use a brass patteren to drill loc pin.
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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2017, 05:18:25 PM »
Hi Guys! So is the lock readyfor innlet in stock. I ask David S. Ripplinger (TOTW) wat steel, he say Wax cast 6150 steel and for hardening Carbo-Nitriding (As smart dog also said) and so I do and it spark like $#*! ;)And I harden the frizzen spring
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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2017, 12:00:59 PM »
Hi All, okei so the lock is inlet :)
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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2017, 03:13:12 PM »
Hi Guys! So is the lock readyfor innlet in stock. I ask David S. Ripplinger (TOTW) wat steel, he say Wax cast 6150 steel and for hardening Carbo-Nitriding (As smart dog also said) and so I do and it spark like $#*! ;)And I harden the frizzen spring
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Runar,
If memory serves me right,6150 is a castable spring steel. This is an interesting thread to me because I have never made
a big military lock of any kind. If it were a caplock the hammer could be removed from the tumbler and then be used to lay
carpet (rugs) with ;D.
Also,as has been noticed,your ability to fabricate useful parts from whatever is laying around is most impressive.I am spoiled
to our ways and easy to obtain materials from local suppliers and free phone calls to others across the country.
Like others here,I AM impressed with your postings/tutorials and do look forward to them.Good job of that big lock.

Bob Roller

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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2017, 02:54:08 AM »
More years ago than I care to remember, I was involved in a manufacturing project.  We had springs and frizzens cast in 6150.  Forty odd years later, the springs are still springy, and the frizzens still spark

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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2017, 02:43:37 PM »
Hi all and thank you Bob Roller and Hudnut I am humble!
Lock bolts made from 6mm carriage bolts  ;)
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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2017, 06:32:50 PM »
Looking good Runastav!!
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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2017, 11:48:40 PM »
Runastave you are going like the wind with this project!  :D

Impressive lock making sir, and a very nice "how to" tread, I am enjoying it all.

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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2017, 03:32:34 AM »
Excellent, as always!  I look forward to your posts and progress as well, thanks!


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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2017, 01:20:52 PM »
Hi All! And thank you guys!
So trigger, triggerplate and triggergard beginning look like a Bess ;)Will be a brake in building, travel to Trondheim shooting Norwegian Championship in black powder. And a trip to Sweden must have more chip elbow grease hehe!
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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2017, 05:40:04 PM »
Really nice work!
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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #39 on: June 27, 2017, 04:03:05 AM »
Beautiful work Runastav!  It's great to see your progress.
Have fun in Trondheim, such a beautiful city. I went there many many years ago and remember it fondly.

Cheers,
Norm (1/2 Norwegian).
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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2017, 12:46:22 AM »
 :) Very nice!!!

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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2017, 03:32:53 PM »
Runar,

I am very impressed with your progress.  You inspire me to jump into building a rifle for myself!  Your lock turned out really nice IMO!  Keep up the good work.  I'm really enjoying reading the updates on this build.

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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2017, 08:46:54 PM »
Hi All, and thank you guys! Norm, 1/2 Norwegian nice ;)I was lucky and took a 3 place in the Norwegian Championship in Smith&Wesson R :) And have worked alitle on the BB. Use a cutoff butcap get it cheap from a buddy, and now its a building brake again. Must shoot alot before travel to east Norway and shooting Nordic Championship July 22-23-2017 (Norway, Sweden,Denmark, Finland and a Russian shooter!)
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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2017, 04:07:56 AM »
Hi Runar: Great job on the BB and a great series of photo's and text to help the rest of us follow along. Good luck in those Nordic games. Wished I was going as I have relatives in Luster up towards the end of the lustrafjorden and I would like to visit them someday. Good luck and keep up the great work.  :)

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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2017, 04:07:46 PM »
Hi Guys! and thank you smylee grouch! Me lucky, take a silver medal in the Jarmann O class in Nordic Championship photo just before shooting :)
And the BB stock begin to look like a BB I think.
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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2017, 09:32:59 PM »
That looks fantastic. It's always a pleasure being able to watch you progress through your builds thanks to your sharing of nearly every step along the way with us.

Congrats on the silver!
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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2017, 02:03:14 AM »
Good stuff, Runar!  Looking good, and congrats on the shooting!


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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2017, 03:02:54 AM »
It's always a pleasure being able to watch you progress through your builds thanks to your sharing of nearly every step along the way with us.
Yep, Runar actually gets things built in a timely manner.  Following my progress is like watching grass grow in the summer with no measurable rain.  Great looking project.  I always enjoy seeing your ingenuity.
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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2017, 08:31:47 PM »
It's always a pleasure being able to watch you progress through your builds thanks to your sharing of nearly every step along the way with us.
Yep, Runar actually gets things built in a timely manner.  Following my progress is like watching grass grow in the summer with no measurable rain.  Great looking project.  I always enjoy seeing your ingenuity.
David

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Re: Building a Brown Bess with a Swedish Barrel
« Reply #49 on: August 09, 2017, 09:18:40 PM »
Hi All, and thank you guys for kind words :)Nose cap made bulky and ugly but me like ;) and now the BB stock is ready for stayning and the brass must polich.
Runar