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Offline James Rogers

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18th Century Double Bag type
« on: August 15, 2017, 02:39:07 PM »
This is a newly designed product for 2017. Early 18th century painter Enoch Seeman was kind enough to leave yet another beautiful painting for me to appreciate depicting a sporting gentleman with a belt bag. This one is unique for us today as it is a double bag but incorporating the main flap as the second pocket. This is a common feature on many bag styles dating as far back as the medieval period.

We have had a recent thread of conversation about double bags in the 18th century and some have speculated that a bag in the 1744 painting of Sir Edward Hales by Mercier is a double. I suggest that the bag in that painting is a double bag but possibly the same general construction as the bag depicted here.

My version of the Seeman belt bag (I will call this the Seeman Double Waiste Bag as I adapted the design of another belt pouch from a different Seeman painting many years ago) pictured here is fully leather lined and edge bound. I lowered the button location in the foremost flap from that of the painting for better access to the flap pocket. The waistbelt has a die forged iron buckle and both fixed and running keepers. The strap end has been left unpunched and can be custom fitted to the new owner on site at the Contemporary Longrifle Show this coming weekend or prior to post shipment.












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Re: 18th Century Double Bag type
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2017, 02:57:16 PM »
Very cool, a feat of construction and design! The belt and buckle are very crisp too

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Re: 18th Century Double Bag type
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2017, 05:24:30 PM »
Very elegant. Beautiful workmanship.

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Re: 18th Century Double Bag type
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2017, 06:00:28 PM »
It doesn't get much better than that!!  Outstanding.

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Re: 18th Century Double Bag type
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2017, 08:24:26 PM »
Beautiful bad, beautifully done!!!
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Re: 18th Century Double Bag type
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2017, 08:57:38 PM »
Fit for an aristocrat.

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Re: 18th Century Double Bag type
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2017, 09:08:42 PM »
An excellent description of Jame's work, Marc.         Bob
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Re: 18th Century Double Bag type
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2017, 02:23:32 AM »
Thanks gentlemen.  I'm not an aristocrat but I do like a belt pouch for shooting and hunting  8) They can also be "one shoulderd."

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Re: 18th Century Double Bag type
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2017, 02:53:36 PM »
 Outstanding piece.

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Re: 18th Century Double Bag type
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2017, 03:14:03 PM »
Superb work.  What's your source for these type buckles?

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Re: 18th Century Double Bag type
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2017, 04:54:06 PM »
Fantastic work James
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Good Luck & Good Shootin'

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Re: 18th Century Double Bag type
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2017, 07:30:32 PM »
Johnny, James' buckles are often sourced from James. :-) He is quite adept at recreating fascinating original buckle designs. Ones of his own designs as well. Quite the talent!  Best wishes, and God Bless, Marc

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Re: 18th Century Double Bag type
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2017, 09:51:50 PM »
Johnny, Marc is correct in that I make a lot of my own. These are correct iron buckles for the period and were bought so long ago I don't remember. Try Scarlet Scarab?
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Re: 18th Century Double Bag type
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2017, 02:47:32 PM »
slick, Slick...