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Offline looper

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triggerguard styles
« on: October 12, 2017, 01:56:38 AM »
What is the time frame for Track of the Wolf's London style fowler guard? I'm assuming it's more of a later flint, 1820s, maybe. Is that correct? And what buttplate would go with one?
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2017, 02:28:45 AM »
Can you post a link?  I don't see one called "London."
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Re: triggerguard styles
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2017, 02:32:44 AM »
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Re: triggerguard styles
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2017, 02:57:28 AM »
I agree, it's a late flint guard.  Not sure if it's correct, but this butt plate looks pretty late to me.

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Re: triggerguard styles
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2017, 02:03:31 PM »
A London style fowler of that period would not have a brass trigger guard.
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Re: triggerguard styles
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2017, 06:24:36 PM »
Quote from: hen on October 13, 2017, 02:03:31 PM
A London style fowler of that period would not have a brass trigger guard.
Low end guns did.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2017, 09:06:38 PM »
I think I saw picture of an early hawken using something similar. How early of a gun could you put that on and it not be out of place?
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Re: triggerguard styles
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2017, 09:58:41 PM »
Scroll guards do not predate 1820 here in the States as far as I know. They were first popularized on English shotguns it seems. Some of the earliest Hawken Rifles with scroll guards have the “shotgun type” with integral fore and aft extensions. So does the Philip Creamer Clark Rifle I believe. On later better quality plains rifles the guard was affixed to a long trigger plate not the stock. The Scroll Guard trade rifles dated 1830s and beyond I believe, can check.
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Re: triggerguard styles
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2017, 05:22:28 AM »
Henry New English scroll guard rifles were introduced in 1834. That seems to be one of the earliest wide usages of a brass scroll guard here.
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Re: triggerguard styles
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2017, 06:25:24 PM »
Thanks for the reply, Rich.
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Re: triggerguard styles
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2017, 07:35:01 PM »
Hi,
There is a pair of English rifles by John Twigg with very similar guards made of steel that were made in 1779.

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2017, 08:21:01 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2017, 02:26:03 AM »
On that link to the CM blog, he says that is a circa 1770-1780 rifle. Is that accurate?
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