Author Topic: Restoring a 1793 Brown Bess India Pattern Type 1 (Read 8906 times)

runastav · « **on:** November 02, 2017, 07:58:16 PM »

Hi Guys!
Here we have original 1793 Brown Bess with parts missing. Missing the cock and bad tumbler, stock is very nice and so is the rest of the parts. This Bess have been in the Swedish Army. Sweden bought in 1808-1812 40000 Brown Bess Musket, and my is marked with an S stand for Stockhoms Tygstation.
I will use a cock from Peter Dyson sinse Im not a millionar(Original cock at IMA 125 US D

)
Runar

Here together with my last Build a Brown bess with a Swedish barrel

smylee grouch · « **Reply #1 on:** November 02, 2017, 08:50:10 PM »

I'm sure it will look like new when your done with it. We again can expect a great follow along I hope. Best wishes. Smylee

Joe S. · « **Reply #2 on:** November 02, 2017, 11:28:11 PM »

Good on you for taking a piece of history and giving it new life.Look forward as always in seeing your project unfold.

conquerordie · « **Reply #3 on:** November 03, 2017, 01:05:54 AM »

I hope it looks like he never touched it

smart dog · « **Reply #4 on:** November 03, 2017, 01:28:24 AM »

Great Runastav!!
Can't wait for more.

kloke hund

n stephenson · « **Reply #5 on:** November 03, 2017, 05:26:05 AM »

Runar, You always do COOL STUFF !! Thanks for showing us your project . Keep us posted . Thanks NATE

runastav · « **Reply #6 on:** November 03, 2017, 04:03:14 PM »

Thank you guys I am humble!
I start with the tumbler, new spindel is ac/ox welded the part will be caseharden.
Runar

runastav · « **Reply #7 on:** November 05, 2017, 01:36:19 PM »

Hi Guys!
Spindel and axle (Tumbler) is now finish and casehardened.Iuse the hammer from my last BB build as a try hammer when filing the square axle.
Runar

Chris Evrard · « **Reply #8 on:** November 05, 2017, 03:50:16 PM »

Wow, loving that tumbler work!

Pukka Bundook · « **Reply #9 on:** November 05, 2017, 11:22:32 PM »

Tumbler looks as good as new!
I never have liked filing the flats on one. This one is a grand job!

Look forward to more.....

runastav · « **Reply #10 on:** November 07, 2017, 01:19:34 PM »

Hi Guys! And thank you!
Sear gone, silversolder new on spring steel. Lock is now fixed, I use my BB build cock as a try hammer to the right came from Peter Dyson.
Runar

SingleMalt · « **Reply #11 on:** November 07, 2017, 03:17:03 PM »

Excellent work!

David R. Pennington · « **Reply #12 on:** November 07, 2017, 03:33:55 PM »

Always interesting to see your work. Thanks for sharing.

runastav · « **Reply #13 on:** November 09, 2017, 07:27:22 PM »

Hi All, and thank you!
The right flintcock came from Peter Dyson fast this time cool

In place, a litle browning/patina and its ready.
Runar

D. Taylor Sapergia · « **Reply #14 on:** November 09, 2017, 07:33:55 PM »

Runar: what on earth is that third hole below the sear?

runastav · « **Reply #15 on:** November 09, 2017, 09:17:08 PM »

Taylor, you are sharp-sighted man! think the Swed have used a Dog-Catch on this BB I dont want it so I plug the hole

Runar

Pukka Bundook · « **Reply #16 on:** November 10, 2017, 08:59:57 AM »

Runar,

I have always disliked fitting a cock to a tumbler, and you have shown me a very simple way to get it done correctly!!

Thanks!
So very simple, marking as you did on the inside. Why this did not occur to me I know not!
Thank you again, and very crisp and lovely work you are doing.

Re the dog catch;
Yes, in Sweden they were used much longer than most countries. I have a Germanic lock with a similar threaded hole, but in my case the hole was for a tapered pin, so the tumbler could be set with less contact, to shorten and lighten the pull. It being on a rifle.

Best wishes
Richard.

D. Taylor Sapergia · « **Reply #17 on:** November 10, 2017, 08:32:44 PM »

Interesting. Thanks for the answer.

taco650 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 14, 2017, 02:38:48 PM »

What was the "dog catch" purpose? Was it a safety of sorts that prevented the cock from going forward?

ddoyle · « **Reply #19 on:** November 15, 2017, 05:39:56 AM »

Yeah it is a pretty ingenious and simple mechanism, if your halfcock notch or sear tip lets go the cock cannot drop. In order to release it from it's positively locked state you need to pull it back to full cock. I wonder why the idea did not persist? Must be a reason? Just not needed once lockmakers got good enough?

Pukka Bundook · « **Reply #20 on:** November 15, 2017, 06:16:20 PM »

Dog catch started out with English lock and the horizontal scear, It held the cock as a safety without relying on the scear.
It was more or less a carry-over when used on the newer "French" flock...hardly needed, but one advantage was that the scear was often disengaged, so the dog held the cock between half and full cock. That way pulling trigger couldn't hurt the scear or tumbler.

Richard.

runastav · « **Reply #21 on:** November 15, 2017, 07:50:51 PM »

Hi Guys! And thank you! The dog cath has also a bad thing. If the shooter have a loose cath it can swing to the cock and stopp it when fire! No good in a fight

So it was a to good safety!
The BB is now ready for the shooting range
Runar

SingleMalt · « **Reply #22 on:** November 15, 2017, 08:18:51 PM »

That's really good work! You work about fifty times faster than I do!

Pukka Bundook · « **Reply #23 on:** November 16, 2017, 12:54:28 AM »

Beautiful work Runar!!

It looks lovely.
Now, we are all going to be waiting for a range report!

Richard.

Curtis · « **Reply #24 on:** November 22, 2017, 08:08:47 AM »

Fantastic job, Runar! It looks like it never had a problem. Good save.

Curtis

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Author Topic: Restoring a 1793 Brown Bess India Pattern Type 1 (Read 8906 times)

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