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Offline tallpine

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engraving queston
« on: May 16, 2018, 06:09:07 AM »
I'm in the process of building my fourth rifle and I want to have some simple engraving done on it, patch box, toe plate and a few inlays.  Can these pieces be fitted than taken off and sent out to an engraver or are they engraved after inleting ?
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Re: engraving queston
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2018, 06:31:42 AM »
Everything you listed I would engrave on the stock - possible exception the toe plate but, usually those are done on the gun too.
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Re: engraving queston
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2018, 06:35:23 AM »
Well, yes and no.  Some parts, like the side plate and the patchbox can be completely fitted and then removed for engraving, although some makers may prefer to engrave parts on the gun.
That said, other parts like small inlays, especially nailed in inlays would be more difficult to remove for engraving once they are completely fitted and flush.  A lot depends on how tight they fit.

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Re: engraving queston
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2018, 06:41:17 AM »
I agree with engraving parts while on the gun. What I have done with patch box door is to engrave it before cutting the hole behind it. That way you have solid wood behind it and the patch box door does not bend while engraving.

I would suggest not sending anything to the engraver. Just engrave it yourself. It is not nearly as hard as it looks. Keep it simple and practice a lot before doing it for real.

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Re: engraving queston
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2018, 06:51:09 AM »
Any parts that have been installed using screws can be removed and engraved off the rifle.  They can be mounted on a block of wood with Bondo, engraved then removed by heating up the Bondo.  You can probably do a better job by engraving as many parts as possible off the rifle since you don't have to work around the rifle.
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Re: engraving queston
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2018, 01:00:56 PM »
I engrave everything I can off of the rifle.
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Re: engraving queston
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2018, 01:42:11 PM »
I try to engraved as much as possible off of the rifle, the patch box, side plate, toe plate and screwed on inlays. Nailed on lnlays are done on the rifle.  Any engraving done on the barrel is done out of the stock and before or without the sights installed.
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Re: engraving queston
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2018, 01:55:27 PM »
Hi,
It is far easier to smoothly engrave a part if it is off the gun so that it can be spun in a vise. As others wrote, engrave as many parts as possible off the gun.  You can also engrave those parts off the gun that will be nailed in place by fitting them and filing flush with the wood (if that is what you want). Then carefully remove them, glue to a block of wood and engrave them.  Then replace them on the gun, drill the pin holes and counter sink them. Tap in the pin and carefully file flush if desired. If you are careful, you will only damage a small amount of the engraving when pinning the inlay, which can be re-engraved on the gun.

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Re: engraving queston
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2018, 03:38:30 AM »
 I don't know any professional engravers who engrave parts on the gun.  Even the smallest inlays.  All these inlays were engraved off the gun after being inlaid. 

 
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Re: engraving queston
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2018, 04:21:13 AM »
I am a student of Jerry's.......hence, I have never engraved anything ON the gun.  There is almost always a way to do it off the gun (as others have explained) and it is far, far easier to do a good job that way.
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Re: engraving queston
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2018, 05:21:12 AM »
Thanks guys. You all have been very helpful. I am looking in to what I will need to get started engraving.  Dan