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New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« on: February 16, 2018, 03:59:08 AM »




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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2018, 05:28:56 AM »
Beautiful craftsmanship as usual. Thanks Taylor,and Bob Roller. Whacha gonna build with it ? best regards, Dave F 8) 8)

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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2018, 05:46:20 AM »
Boy that sure is pretty! Looks like an English -Rigby or Henry maybe.

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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2018, 06:07:03 AM »
Sort of like seeing under the hood of a Jaguar D-Type. Mechanical excellence with elegance. God Bless, Marc

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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2018, 07:08:51 AM »
That is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship!!  We can be thankful that , it is in the hands of a Master craftsman , fully capable of using it, to it`s fullest potential. Thanks for the post Taylor!. Nate

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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2018, 12:24:55 PM »
Hi guys, its a jewelery :)
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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2018, 04:07:39 PM »
Taylor,
Thank you for the fast posting of this lock.I am bothered by
the photo showing blemishes on the small bearing on the tumbler
and the lower curve of the bridle that don't exist. These were in
the picture I sent and our son Eric was the photographer.
This lock was made for a local man,close friend Larry Vaden
who is a collector of one of a kind items. It will not be used
on any gun build during his life time.
That hammer is one Bill Large made up in 1972 and he had
a mould made to produce it.The mould is in the hands of Les
Barber who does lock assembly for Davis but I still own the
mould.
It IS an exact copy of a Rigby lock plate.Several years ago,
Joe Hepsworth (now deceased) sent two of these locks to me
for new main and sear springs.The owner in South Africa was
capable of making them but had no spring steel and no good
way to get any so I agreed to do the repair and Mr.Hepsworth
delivered them to the man in South Africa I made a plate profile
of this unusual pattern and this one is the 4th one in 10 years.
The other 3 are in Indiana owned by 3 different people.
Thanks to the other posters for the nice comments on this lock.
The next 3 will be the Alex Henry style which is a very common
one in all grades of British rifles and shotguns and vary in the
mechanisms from the style seen here to very basic like the
American Hawken lock.
Bob Roller

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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2018, 04:26:15 PM »
Yes Bob, I saw those blemishes and immediately thought what a piece of junk. Just kidding of course. That is an exquisite piece of work, and I am sure the owner is rightly proud to have such a magnificent piece of workmanship. If I owned it, I would almost be reluctant to install it because then I couldn't look at the jewel like interior all the time. I always enjoy looking at your locks and hearing your insights on them.
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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2018, 05:13:54 PM »
Wish I could be a fly on the wall and watch you make that main spring and sear spring. Very nice lock but to my eye those spring's have a grace all their own.
Robby
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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2018, 08:33:51 PM »
As Bob has described, I do not possess this lock, unfortunately...just posted images for Bob.  Lovely work Bob.
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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2018, 09:10:25 PM »
I stand corrected. Mr. Roller Beautiful Work!! Taylor, I was chomping at the bit to see what you would turn out with this lock. Thanks Nate

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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2018, 09:22:27 PM »
Bob Roller - wonderful craftmanship - most impressive craftsman.
Daryl

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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2018, 09:31:49 PM »
I stand corrected. Mr. Roller Beautiful Work!! Taylor, I was chomping at the bit to see what you would turn out with this lock. Thanks Nate

Thank you for the nice comments on that odd lock.Four in ten years isn't high volume ;D but then
I have never been big on volume.THIS particular lack will never be duplicated by me because I
promised a closed friend he would have the only one ever from my shop.

Bob Roller

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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2018, 03:21:09 AM »
That lock deserves a long range muzzle loading rifle, English of course, and I'd choose .45 cal for the pleuphoria of molds available.
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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2018, 06:57:45 PM »
There are some really good long range bullets in .40 cal. now too.
Daryl

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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2018, 07:44:20 AM »
Great Job Bob!!!!!

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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2018, 01:15:54 PM »
D. Taylor Sapergia,

Very nice lock!
It surprised me to see the lock.
The first lock I made was also a Percussion lock on scale.
Later I started to make Flintlocks on scale as you know.
On the picture you see a drawing with metal to fit the barrel.
I hope you can see what  I mean. I have not more pictures of the pistol, because I gave it away to a friend.
May be you can use the example. 
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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2018, 04:40:17 PM »
D. Taylor Sapergia,

Very nice lock!
It surprised me to see the lock.
The first lock I made was also a Percussion lock on scale.
Later I started to make Flintlocks on scale as you know.
On the picture you see a drawing with metal to fit the barrel.
I hope you can see what  I mean. I have not more pictures of the pistol, because I gave it away to a friend.
May be you can use the example. 
Adrie.

I see what you mean but this like is an EXACT copy of the antiques I had in
for repair over 10 years ago. The line you drew if followed would make an elegant
"bar in wood" lock like those seen on American caplock target rifles from our
Northeast. I made such a rifle in 2008 (09?).
The mechanism in my Rigby copy is a precise copy of a Stanton style mechanism
with the fishtail bridle. I borrowed this lock from Lynton McKenzie in 1987 and
set all other work aside to see if I could really copy it and I did.Later I borrowed
a much smaller lock with identical mechanism for "Rook"or boys rifles.I have made
only 7 of these and the $400 price tag is a deterrent.The one shown by Taylor is a
$300 job in my shop.
That's a good looking pistol and the octagon barrel would work well with the additional
shoulder on the lock plate.The Rigby and other English long range guns have a "drip bar"
that sets on top of that area of the plate but it is not a bad idea as you drew it
Thanks for posting the pistol and your idea.

Bob Roller





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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2018, 05:05:19 PM »
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That lock deserves a long range muzzle loading rifle,
This is a lock that I reshaped several years ago when building Snapper's Rigby project.



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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2018, 05:37:20 PM »
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That lock deserves a long range muzzle loading rifle,
This is a lock that I reshaped several years ago when building Snapper's Rigby project.



Fine inletting on that one.Whose lock? The screw spacing doesn't match my pattern.

Bob Roller

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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2018, 07:34:33 PM »
The real beauty in Mr. Roller's locks can't be seen with the eye, but is felt with the thumb.
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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2018, 08:31:57 PM »
David R....that is so true.  They have the nicest action of any modern lock, and rival original work too.
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Re: New lock by Mr. Robert Roller
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2018, 03:01:41 AM »
Thanks a lot for the nice comments on this lock.As I have said  so many times,
it shows what I think of the new owner and myself as a craftsman.Careful and
precise as possible fitting of these parts pays off in more than the price of the
lock.The first of these 4 pin locks was made by me in 1987 and the man that
bought it was R.E.Davis at the Spring Shoot at Friendship. I have had one come
back for repair with a heavily altered tumbler that didn't work out at all.
Thanks again for the good comments because they can NOT be bought.

Bob Roller