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Old Heavy Rifle
« on: May 24, 2018, 08:33:14 PM »
Been in the rack for awhile. Thought I posted it before, but couldn't find it. 48 1/2", 33" barrel, .38 cal. Adj. Rear lollipop sight.
The barrel is marked J. Clutz. The lock is marked Riddle.
To heavy to draw a bead standing.


















Offline rich pierce

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Re: Old Heavy Rifle
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2018, 12:18:04 AM »
Nice!  How’s the bore?
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Re: Old Heavy Rifle
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2018, 01:17:54 AM »
A nice rifle from the percussion era.  Muzzle is turned for a bullet guide starter...likely has a twist rate for a picket or sugar loaf bullet rather than a ball.
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Re: Old Heavy Rifle
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2018, 06:59:28 AM »
The bore is in excellent condition. The original owner took very good care of her.

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Re: Old Heavy Rifle
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2018, 09:35:02 PM »
The hole gun is in great shape. Do you know the age it?
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Offline smokinbuck

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Re: Old Heavy Rifle
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2018, 03:38:19 PM »
Clutz was an Amish gun builder in Ohio, I'm drawing a blank on the county. 1860's - 1880's. Not an uncommon Ohio rifle, probably built for log or bench shooting.
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Re: Old Heavy Rifle
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2018, 04:10:07 PM »
Massillon Ohio is in Stark CO...…..
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Re: Old Heavy Rifle
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2018, 04:03:43 PM »
I'm not sure the name "Clutz" would give his potential clients great confidence in his abilities.... ;)
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Re: Old Heavy Rifle
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2018, 08:32:40 PM »
A rifle to be proud of.  Worth getting a new false muzzle made to load it.

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Re: Old Heavy Rifle
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2018, 09:22:33 PM »
She did’nt have a false muzzle. The turned section of the muzzle was there to receive a socket type bullet starter. As was stated, the barrel no doubt is either a bullet twist, or gain twist. This is a late period target rifle, possibly even made after cartridge rifles were common.

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Re: Old Heavy Rifle
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2018, 06:24:37 PM »
Are you sure that lock isn't marked "Biddle"? I have an old Ohio rifle with a Biddle lock, apparently they sold locks out of Philadelphia. I don't know if they were any relation to the Ohio gun maker Levi Biddle, probably were somehow.
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Re: Old Heavy Rifle
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2018, 10:05:53 PM »
KC,
I had a Levi Biddle rifle recently and it did not have a Biddle lock on it. I'm drawing a blank on what the name was but am certain it was not Biddle.
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Re: Old Heavy Rifle
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2018, 09:20:30 PM »
She did’nt have a false muzzle. The turned section of the muzzle was there to receive a socket type bullet starter. As was stated, the barrel no doubt is either a bullet twist, or gain twist. This is a late period target rifle, possibly even made after cartridge rifles were common.

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