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Offline elk killer

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What barrel length are sights useful
« on: July 17, 2018, 02:23:04 PM »
At what barrel length do sights really benefit, see lots of short pistols with no sights
anything over 3 inches? 4 inches? 5 inches? of course is no set standard, and of course
the distance between rear and front sight makes a difference 
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Offline WadePatton

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Re: What barrel length are sights useful
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2018, 04:24:40 PM »
At what barrel length do sights really benefit, see lots of short pistols with no sights
anything over 3 inches? 4 inches? 5 inches? of course is no set standard, and of course
the distance between rear and front sight makes a difference

Depends mostly on your ability to hold a pistol, the accuracy it is capable of, and how well defined the sights are.  I can't imagine going with zero--but would always use something even if very minimal. Sooner or later you want to pop a can or string or pumpkin with it.

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Offline Daryl

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Re: What barrel length are sights useful
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2018, 09:28:19 PM »
I used to teach my lads (corrections riot squad and perimeter security teams) to shoot instinctively out to 25 yards.

About all of them could hold 6 consecutive shots inside a 6" circle at that range with the gun held shoulder height, shooting

rapid fire, DA.
 
This would be much more difficult to learn with single shot pistols. I would of course, say it is a distance deal, not a

barrel length deal, given the "equalizer" of sufficiently accurate gun.  It has to put the ball where the barrel is pointing.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2018, 09:30:44 PM by Daryl »
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Offline stubshaft

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Re: What barrel length are sights useful
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2018, 11:26:04 PM »
The need for sights is predicated on the distance you plan to shoot at and the size of the target you intend to hit.  If you are carrying a derringer and plan on hitting a target 3 feet away they are of no use to you.  If you are carrying the same derringer and plan on shooting a target 15 yds. away then they may be beneficial to you.
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Offline Turtle

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Re: What barrel length are sights useful
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2018, 03:28:35 PM »
 For instinctive shooting below eye level the grip shape and angle is everything. We did a lot of experimenting and modifying modern pistols for instinctive shooting. If grip shape and angle are correct hits just happen. If one made a bp pistol and left the grip unshaped and you shot it a lot and shaped it as you went,you would be surprised what you can hit.

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Re: What barrel length are sights useful
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2018, 04:16:34 PM »
For instinctive shooting below eye level the grip shape and angle is everything. We did a lot of experimenting and modifying modern pistols for instinctive shooting. If grip shape and angle are correct hits just happen. If one made a bp pistol and left the grip unshaped and you shot it a lot and shaped it as you went,you would be surprised what you can hit.

Yes sir.  It's all feel without the eyes engaging the gun at all.  Good idea.  If I ever do a short one.
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