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Offline tlallijr

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Contemporary .45 caliber rifle
« on: September 22, 2018, 05:50:08 PM »
 A friend of mine recently inherited this flintlock rifle from a family friend, the lady that it came from didn't have any information about the gun. I'm curious to see if anybody possibly recognizes who may have built it. The barrel breech is set up very strange, there is no standing breech it just kind of slips in under a standing tang and barely hooks the lock bolt. My buddy says the rifle is very accurate and shoots as well as his other guns despite this set up. Here's some pictures of this ugly duckling. Thanks Tony












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Offline alyce-james

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Re: Contemporary .45 caliber rifle
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2018, 06:48:22 PM »
tiallijr; Sir, a fair amount of time invested on the engraving, inlays and carving. The rifle has some high points and some very low. (Barrel- Tang area) points. Sorry I can't help with identification information. Thanks for sharing. Have a great week end. AJ.
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Re: Contemporary .45 caliber rifle
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2018, 06:13:51 AM »
The fellow that built it was very talented.  Not HC, but done well.  Very distinctive.

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Re: Contemporary .45 caliber rifle
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2018, 07:23:02 PM »
The trigger guard reminds me of the "fancy" guard Dixie Gun Works offered
 in the late 60's (german silver if i recall) and the patchbox seems to be a reflection of Rowan Co North Carolina forms...no clue as to maker

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Re: Contemporary .45 caliber rifle
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2018, 04:28:33 PM »
I do love the carved bird behind entry thimble! :-*
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Re: Contemporary .45 caliber rifle
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2018, 08:34:33 PM »
The breech/tang area of this rifle reminds me of another unorthodox system that was used by the late Al Brown of Chiliwack, BC.  He breech plugged his barrels with a large Allen socket headed plug, and made a standing breech that had a round peg protruding.  The peg coincided with the socket of the plug and the barrel was securely held with pins through escutcheon plates along the forestock.  A neat and effective system.
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Re: Contemporary .45 caliber rifle
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2018, 05:58:17 PM »
I'd be worried about snagging birds and small children on that trigger guard...

But inlays and carving are really superb. 
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Re: Contemporary .45 caliber rifle
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2018, 01:13:29 AM »
Appears to be well made and is attractive.  But that weird breech....
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Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: Contemporary .45 caliber rifle
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2018, 04:43:10 PM »
I unique rifle, but if I owned it, that trigger guard would have to go.

Offline Bob Roller

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Re: Contemporary .45 caliber rifle
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2018, 01:04:37 AM »
The breech/tang area of this rifle reminds me of another unorthodox system that was used by the late Al Brown of Chiliwack, BC.  He breech plugged his barrels with a large Allen socket headed plug, and made a standing breech that had a round peg protruding.  The peg coincided with the socket of the plug and the barrel was securely held with pins through escutcheon plates along the forestock.  A neat and effective system.

I used this tang/breech plug idea on the 2nd muzzle loader I built.It was the walnut
half stock 58 caliber rifle I have mentioned before with the first octagon barrel Bill
Large made after he got his shop running in 1958.It's a good idea and makes it easy
to get a barrel out of the wood.I used a single wedge on this rifle and won a number
of offhand matches with it.

Bob Roller
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