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Offline AMartin

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makers mark ??
« on: January 03, 2019, 06:12:09 PM »
I was asked who might of built this rifle .. and I'm at lost . So I'm checking here to see if anyone here might recognize this work ...

thanks .. Allen








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Re: makers mark ??
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2019, 07:28:33 PM »
I didn't, but wish I had.  Fine detailed work.
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Re: makers mark ??
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2019, 07:38:49 PM »
Allen
I've never seen his makers mark but based on the mark and quality of the work a good guess would be Monte Mandarino. Just a guess though. Tim

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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2019, 09:15:55 PM »
I would guess Monte
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Re: makers mark ??
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2019, 11:23:50 PM »
It seems to be really hard to view examples of Mandarino's work aside from a few pieces on the Contemporary Makers Blog. Anyone have more to share? It would be interesting to see the makers marks to compare to this one. From a few other pieces of his I've seen, it seems like his lock/barrel signatures vary depending on the time period he's reproducing. I haven't seen other good photos of his maker's marks but have seen others with somewhat different "MM" signatures I assume were also Mandarino's work.
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Re: makers mark ??
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2019, 02:37:53 AM »
and I thought this thread was pertaining to whiskey......

Offline Jim Chambers

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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2019, 04:18:00 AM »
I have no idea who made this fine rifle, but I don't believe it was Mandarino.  The only stamp I've seen of his was a "MM".  I could be wrong, but the overall work just doesn't look like something Monte did.

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Re: makers mark ??
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2019, 06:06:35 AM »
I knew I'd seen a similar work like this before( been buggin me all day :) )....... it's Mark Bokenkamp.He has a piece in The Three Centuries of Tradition Book.


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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2019, 06:35:52 AM »
I’d certainly like to see more, it appears to be a beautiful piece from the details shown.

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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2019, 04:56:40 PM »
I knew I'd seen a similar work like this before( been buggin me all day :) )....... it's Mark Bokenkamp.He has a piece in The Three Centuries of Tradition Book.


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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2019, 06:05:47 PM »
Was there not a thread on here some time ago about the CLA putting together a compilation of Marks for reference?  Is that resource available?  oh wait.

there it is.   But I'm not seeing  any "Mark" but Thomas. https://www.longrifle.com/artisans-makers-marks/
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2019, 06:42:14 PM »
You're absolutely right Mitch.  It's Mark Bokenkamp's touchmark.  Mark did good work. He also was good at a forge. Too bad he is no longer with us. Tim

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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2019, 08:09:11 PM »
Check out that fine raised bead around the nose of the patchbox lid!
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Re: makers mark ??
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2019, 01:55:52 AM »
I’d love to see some overall pictures of this rifle
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2019, 04:25:15 PM »
My first impression was Monty Mandarino but something didn't click ...

Mark Bokenkamp without any doubt ... The gun in the 3 Century's book has the same mark , the gun pictured is slightly different but same feel and appearance ..
Thanks Mitch for bringing this to my attention and to all who responded ...

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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2019, 03:14:18 AM »
You're absolutely right Mitch.  It's Mark Bokenkamp's touchmark.  Mark did good work. He also was good at a forge. Too bad he is no longer with us. Tim
For anyone with access to the "November 1984" issue of The Blackpowder Report, page 8 features an article about Monte Mandarino and also talks about Mark Bokenkamp.
The Mandarino Fowler graces the cover of the December 1992 issue of "Muzzle Blasts" with a great piece written by the late John Bivins.  Mr. Bivins also mentions Mark Bokenkamp.
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2019, 06:58:02 PM »
I came across this forum in a search about carving. This is indeed Mark Bokenkamp's work.  Mark was my husband and made very few guns, but all with great aesthetics.  He turned from gun smithing to architectural iron work.  I have only come across one other instance of his guns and that was last spring.  So is great to have found this thread.  He died in May of 2016.

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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2019, 05:05:52 PM »
Welcome to one of the best forums on the 'net, Janet.  You will find all sorts of folks here, most very knowledgeable and friendly, eager to share their knowledge.
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2019, 09:28:25 PM »
Gorgeous finishes and work.  The finishes remind me a bit of Lowell Haarer's work.  Glad you identified the maker.  He sure was talented.  God Bless,   Marc

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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2019, 04:06:42 PM »
Allen I would love to see more pics of that gun if you have them.
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Re: makers mark ??
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2019, 08:32:14 PM »
Hey Wattle ..

These pics were sent to me by the owner and that's all I have ..

Sorry ...
Al