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Offline Feltwad

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How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« on: August 23, 2008, 11:48:47 AM »
Just a query to see if members know some of the different parts associated to a muzzle loader.
Parts as follows.
What is a   Fly,Sturrip,Nail,Spade,Baluster Turn,Anvil, Fence, and what are the main incredients of a stub twist barrel.Most of the older members will know but maybe not the younger ones.
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Re: How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2008, 04:50:38 PM »
"Spade" and "baluster turn" are new ones on me.

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Re: How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2008, 04:57:22 PM »
Baluster Turn      ??? ??? ???
I hope I did not leave it off my last rifle.
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Re: How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2008, 05:13:35 PM »
Baluster Turn      ??? ??? ???
I hope I did not leave it off my last rifle.
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That sounds too fancy for them southern rifles Ken.  Maybe a stair part on one of those big plantation houses ?????

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Re: How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2008, 06:16:34 PM »
Fly,stirrup,nail, and fence I know, as well as the stub twist question. "Nail" is a British term, though. Was it ever used on this side of the Atlantic?
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Re: How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2008, 06:25:23 PM »
Never heard of Spade or Baluster turn. What about cock and hammer, they seem to be confused oe misused, or modernized??
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Re: How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2008, 06:34:50 PM »
I think hammer in the contemporary world will eventually replace the term cock just as several of the terms mentioned have been replaced.

I was introduced to the term "lock nail" by Steve Bookout.  That doesn't mean it was used on this side of the pond but I don't think he would have considered it a term I needed to know unless it was used by some southern builders. 

Ok, what is a Baluster Turn   ???
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Re: How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2008, 06:56:35 PM »
Ken.

Hang on for a while and see if anyone can come up with the answer.

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Re: How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2008, 07:10:29 PM »
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I was introduced to the term "lock nail" by Steve Bookout.  That doesn't mean it was used on this side of the pond

They were more commonly called "side nails" and you frequently run into that term clear into the early 1940's or so.  You also see them called "side pins."  Also, the breechplug was called the breech pin.

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Re: How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2008, 09:18:58 PM »
The answers to this query is as follows and are the old English flintlock names to some.
Fly which most will know is a device on the tumbler which guides the sear nose past the half cock position.
Sturrip is the part that connects the main lock  spring to the tumbler.
Spade this is the nose part of a tubelock hammer and is spade shape see image

The  Anvil is the part of a tube lock barrel on which lies the tube, when struck by the spade nose iignites and fires into the touch hole  see image of the anvil

The baluster turn is the incised part of the barrel where the hexagon joins the round of the barrel it is also called the wedding band see  image

The nail is a flintlock name for the side screws that secure the lock plate they are also the pins that secure the barrel to the full stock.
The fence is part of the standing breech which is situated behind the nipple.
The main ingredeints for a stub twist barrel are discarded horse shoe nails.
Most of these names are English flintlock names of gun parts.
Feltwad






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Re: How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2008, 09:34:43 PM »
A baluster turn is:
 "an incised ring turned on the outside of the barrel of a firearm" according to

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Re: How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2008, 04:41:23 PM »
Thanks Feltwad.  I don't ever remember seeing the up close workings of a tube lock let alone a tube.  Now if I someone would post pics of a pill lock with pills that would be great.  Keep them coming.

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Re: How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2008, 09:44:45 PM »
Sorry to say....I flunked this test....Fred
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Re: How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2008, 07:28:53 PM »
Very interesting! First tube lock I ever saw! Must be they weren't dependable or widespread or even safe.  Did the primer tube fly off sideways when fired? I wouldn't want to stand next to it when firing!
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Re: How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2008, 07:40:22 PM »
I know all my gun parts in German...

Only an Englishman would call a screw a nail....
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Re: How well do you know your Muzzle Loader
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2008, 10:06:20 PM »
 Must be they weren't dependable or widespread or even safe.  Did the primer tube fly off sideways when fired? I wouldn't want to stand next to it when firing!
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The tube was very dependable but it was over taken by the percussion cap which was much cheaper to produce and easy to apply on the nipple.
To stop the tube from flying side ways on some the tube was held in place by a scissor type spring see image other type was a shield on the side of the hammer see image.

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The shield on the side of the hammer nose

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