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General discussion => Shop Made Tools => Topic started by: David Rase on June 13, 2011, 04:25:06 AM
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I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel. Pictured below is my almost completed version of a wooden Iowa rifle bench. I started with one of Bookies 49 1/2 inch cylinders and his book. The worm is 1-48 twist with 7 grooves. The legs are removable so I can store the bench on the wall when not in use or transport it for a demonstration. Bookies instruction book made construction a breeze. I opted to do everything by hand using planes, chisels, gouges, table saw, drill press and electric drill just so I could say I did. The grooves took the longest. The first one took about 3 hours and then I got it down to about 2 hours each. I am going to disassemble everything, give it a light sanding, add a little stain and sealer and then all that is left is to build the rifling head.
(https://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f372/Gunbu1lder/riflingbench1.jpg)Dave
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Wow! She looks great. I like the adaptations. Thanks for posting. Please post a pic when you have it all stained up.
Ken
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Hi Dave, Great work on the rifling bench. Do you plan to use it?
I was wondering why the two rods on each side of the spiral
cutting cylinder were necessary? On the original bench used by
my Shreckengost ancestors, there was only the cylinder rod. You
can see it on ALR under The Shreckengost Collection. I assume
you are a rifle builder as well?
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That's just too cool Dave. I watched some lads using a similar bench at Dixon's Fair. It worked really slick.
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Suzkat,
I do plan on using the rifling bench. I have a couple of .50 caliber barrel blanks on order. The rods transfer the pull on the handle to the tail piece which in turn applies the axial force to the worm. I have seen the design you are talking about where the worm is coupled to the handle thus eliminating the need for the two rods.
Taylor,
That rifling bench at Dixon's is nice enough to be a piece of furniture. If I had that rifling bench I would have to make a place for it in my living room. I spent several hours working and learning from those guys several years ago.
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I've got the same thing planned but I'm trying to get the barrel reamer done first. Bookie has great plans and they are easy to follow, well illustrated and very sensibly explained. I'm waiting on the rifle worm now. Already got 2 pistol worms from him. Hopefully I'll have the reamer and the pistol rifler done by the end of the summer.
Dave ... You did great work on your project it looks like. I can only hope mine turns out half as nice. ;D
Please keep us updated on how it works when the barrel blanks get here.
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That looks great, David! You did an excellent job, thanks for sharing. You have helped jumpstart my thoughts towards building one of my own.
Curtis
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Very, very nice work.
Dan
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David: You will soon be a member of the "exclusive" handcut rifling club!!?? ;) Nice work!
Hugh Toenjes
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Dave, Brother Ken Guy gave me heads up on your post. You do me proud. She really, really looks beautiful and SEVEN grooves to boot! Reckon I'd best be letting you build my next rifler!! Please send me a photo when you have'er all dressed up as I'd sure like to display your handicraft on my website. Thanks for the kind words. Cheers, Bookie
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Dave, how do you go about cutting the grooves. They appear to be quite precise!
It's a beautiful piece of work, thanks for putting it up.
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Nice work...Would like to have one of those....Do you ever see any of them for sale?
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Dave, how do you go about cutting the grooves. They appear to be quite precise!
It's a beautiful piece of work, thanks for putting it up.
Longcruise,
I laid out the twist on a sheet of paper that was the same length and diameter as the worm. I then wrapped the paper around the cylinder, taped it in place and used a wide chisel and made a cut the entire length following the line. Next I figured out the spacing and using a business card trimmed to the right width I penciled in the other 6 grooves. I then used another slice of business card just under 3/8" wide and laid out the groove width.
I used a drill bit and stop and marked the depth of the grooves about every inch. I then chiseled each side of the groove in approximately 6" sections. I used a gouge to remove the wood and then repeated the process two more times for each section until I got to depth. What I think made the grooves so uniform was the square scrapper I made from a piece of 3/8" square stock approximately 1 1/2" long. I mounted this on a handle and after roughing out the groove with a chisel and gouge I scrapped the groove to uniform size and depth. Using a rubber eraser that I trimmed down I then sanded the grooves with 60 grit paper wrapped around the eraser. A couple of coats of spar varnish sandeded between coats with the eraser will slick it up nicely.
Dave
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Very nice and I think it does belong in the house :)
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Suzkat,
I do plan on using the rifling bench. I have a couple of .50 caliber barrel blanks on order.
Cool rifling bench Dave! I'm thinking to get the "full experience" you really need to forge the first barrel and post pics of the process on here.
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Nice work on the rifler, Dave. I pleased to learn the instructions Bookie and I provided in the book were found to be easy to follow. Look forward to you posting the finalized finish on the rifler. We have had riflers made all over the world from the plans in our book. Glad to see a finished product.
Again, you did a fine job. Have you rifled any barrels yet?
Hoot AL
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How does this rifler work? Does anyone have a video of it in operation.
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bump
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Go to Steve Bookout's web site, there's pictures, and some video's I think, and also how to get his book on building one.
Bill
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Finally got to take the rifling bench out for a test drive this weekend. There was a woodworkers show at our local Woodcraft store and since they make a good sized contribution to our guild every year the guild in return puts on a display at their show. Got to put 980 strokes on the old boy today, about a third of the way there I figure. Here are a couple of pictures of the rifling bench.
(https://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f372/Gunbu1lder/riflingbench011.jpg)
The bench in all its glory.
(https://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f372/Gunbu1lder/riflingbench015.jpg)
A pile of swarth after a 10 stroke run.
Dave
Bookie, I will be sending some pictures to you as requested to post on your web sight. Thanks for all your help. As stated before, the book was written so well that even a cave man could build the rifling bench.
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David; If there would have been a first place blue ribbon at the woodworkers show held by the Woodcraft store your completed project would certainly have been the top contender (winner). Thanks for sharing the birth of a rifling experience from build, "WOODEN IOWA RIFLING BENCH" to completing a rifled barrel. Outstanding job. Turkeyfooter.
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David; If there would have been a first place blue ribbon at the woodworkers show held by the Woodcraft store your completed project would certainly have been the top contender (winner). Thanks for sharing the birth of a rifling experience from build, "WOODEN IOWA RIFLING BENCH" to completing a rifled barrel. Outstanding job. Turkeyfooter.
Turkeyfooter,
I just looked in the Wooden Iowa Rifling book Steve sent me before I started my adventure. He dated it October 25, 2010. It was just shy of a year to complete the project and start rifling a barrel.
Dave
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So Dave, your wife doesn't mind that you're using her toothbrush? ;D
Bill
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While cleaning up my shop today I came across the bucket of chips I was saving from cutting the 7 grooves in the rifling worm. Thought I would share a photo with you guys. Don't ask me why I saved them or why I am sharing a photo of them! ;D ;D ;D
Dave
(https://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f372/Gunbu1lder/riflingbench028.jpg)
Grain scoop with chips from grooving the rifling worm.
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Dave,
Probably from habit, you know keeping those curls just in case you need to repair a place and need a few pieces to glue back ;D
Dennis
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Good scraps for the tinderbox anyway. ;)
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Its a dandy Dave. Not sure I have the patience to make the machine much less rifle a barrel.
Dan
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Could you show how the barrel is held in the machine?
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What type of metal is used for the cutting Bit?
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what type of shims do you use with grooving bit i hear tell they used dried onion skins back in the day
thank you
Richard Westerfield
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Micah / Richard,
I use wooden shims to align the barrel height and side to side. I then use a wooden wedge on the top of the barrel to lock it into place. I think I have a better picture of the barrel locked into place.
TMerkley,
The cutting bit is made from a piece of 8" smooth file. I made one using the existing file teeth on the edge of the file, adjusting the width with a disc sander and stone and I made a second cutter from the same file only I cut in teeth that scrape the groove on both strokes. It is a copy of the cutter they use on the rifling machine at Dixon's.
Any other questions or request just let me know. I will try to be a little more expedient in posting answers.
Dave
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what about the cutting tool how and what do use for a shim to lift the tool up so it cuts deeper in to the barrow
richard westerfield
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what about the cutting tool how and what do use for a shim to lift the tool up so it cuts deeper in to the barrow
richard westerfield
I use little strips of .001" stainless shim stock.
Dave
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than you
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Thank you for the information and posting all of this for the rest of us to see. one of these days (or years) I would like to something similar. Probabaly after the 7 year old is out of the house more than likely.
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Guys,
Check out the information contained in the gun building section under the topic "making a cutter for rifling" and you can see some detailed photos of a rifling cutter. Check it out and let me know if there are any questions on how the cutter is used.
Jim Everett
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vary nice once i get some of my many project done i too hope to try to make one
i would also like to build the reaming bench and forge barrels but after 3 years or so of not forging and a few nerve damaging wounds turns out im not so good at forging any more ::) i'll get it back its just going to take a bit ;D
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what type of shims do you use with grooving bit i hear tell they used dried onion skins back in the day
thank you
Richard Westerfield
That's what the wood chips are for!!!
Old Ford ;D :P
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now thats a work of art,id love to make one,got the book on building one about ten years ago,my skill level are a little lacking,nice job