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Title: any pics of an original shimmel
Post by: billm on March 05, 2012, 02:44:38 PM
Does anyone have any pics of an original schimmel  ?Thanks......Bill
Title: Re: any pics of an original shimmel
Post by: Dphariss on March 05, 2012, 04:49:00 PM
Sorry could not resist ;D

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi72.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi199%2FDPhariss%2FMold_Dish.jpg&hash=4b64c37180419be5b91388c275ee1f611532cc51)
Title: Re: any pics of an original shimmel
Post by: TMerkley on March 05, 2012, 05:55:23 PM
Dan,

I like your sense of humor!! :D
Title: Re: any pics of an original shimmel
Post by: b bogart on March 05, 2012, 07:54:38 PM
Dan are you sure that isn't schmutz rather than schimmel????? :D
Title: Re: any pics of an original shimmel
Post by: grouchy on March 06, 2012, 01:49:15 AM
Try doing a search, there were some nice pictures of guns made by David Boyer a while back you might like. Try David Boyer schimmels in Antique gun collecting.
Title: Re: any pics of an original shimmel
Post by: Dphariss on March 06, 2012, 05:02:26 AM
Dan are you sure that isn't schmutz rather than schimmel????? :D

Actually "Schimmel" has several meanings in German. Mold or fungus is one of them and comes up first on an internet search "Schimmel German". I used to work with a guy named Schimmel and he visited Germany and learned what his name meant :o.

Dan
Title: Re: any pics of an original shimmel
Post by: FALout on March 06, 2012, 05:37:12 AM
I suppose there's worse things for your name to mean!  That's a funny story.
Title: Re: any pics of an original shimmel
Post by: Bob Roller on March 06, 2012, 02:56:29 PM
First was shimmel,then came schmutz and I will submit,witz.

Bob Roller
Title: Re: any pics of an original shimmel
Post by: Dale Halterman on March 06, 2012, 03:31:03 PM
Bill, I don't know offhand of any pictures, but if you live anywhere near Chuck Dixon's shop in Kempton, PA, he has a couple hanging on the wall there.

Dale H
Title: Re: any pics of an original shimmel
Post by: Don Getz on March 06, 2012, 03:41:04 PM
The first gun I ever saw of this type was back in the early 70's.   Bob Hoyt showed up at a shoot with this real plain gun,
no buttplate, no side plate, no entry pipe or nose cap, he called it a "poor boy".    Then Chuck Dixon created the name
"schimmel" for the same type of gun.  I don't think there ever was a gunbuilder by this name, however there was an
itinerant wood carver by that name, carved all kinds of animals to pay for food and lodging.   These wood carving have
now become very valuable folk art collectibles.   These plain guns have now taken on a new name, "barn gun", have no
idea of where this started.    I have made a lot of them and this is the description I prefer to use.  The name "D. Boyer"
has come up quite frequently.   He worked in Berks county and apparently built a lot of them.  I know of one locally but
have not been able to buy it............Don
Title: Re: any pics of an original shimmel
Post by: Acer Saccharum on March 06, 2012, 03:53:24 PM
I think the first guy to build these plain guns was Barney Schimmel. You can call a plain gun by his first or last name, whatever suits your style. Don Getz is a first name kind of guy.


There are some German guns with no metal furniture, so the buttplate, guard, sideplate, thimbles, etc, are all made of wood. But this is hardly a money or time saving trick, it is really a gunstocker's joke, and a way to show his/her skills. The buttplate is carved from the same piece as the stock, and is all faceted and engraved to replicate a metal plate.

Title: Re: any pics of an original shimmel
Post by: Roger Fisher on March 06, 2012, 05:37:44 PM
Dan are you sure that isn't schmutz rather than schimmel????? :D

Actually "Schimmel" has several meanings in German. Mold or fungus is one of them and comes up first on an internet search "Schimmel German". I used to work with a guy named Schimmel and he visited Germany and learned what his name meant :o.

Dan
Sure looks like Schmutz to me ::)
Title: Re: any pics of an original shimmel
Post by: smshea on March 07, 2012, 01:53:55 AM
You guys are Funny! Do a search for Antique schimmel and you find some I posted a while back.