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General discussion => Black Powder Shooting => Topic started by: zimmerstutzen on April 27, 2012, 10:36:37 PM

Title: why bulge the target out??
Post by: zimmerstutzen on April 27, 2012, 10:36:37 PM
I once competed at alot of the same places as Roger Fisher, and maybe he knows.  There was a fellow that would always staple one side of his target to the backer and then bulge the target out away from the backer before stapling the other side.  He did it at every match, every target.  It always held the middle of the target about a half inch forward of the backer.    Once  up at Jacobsburg about 1985, I saw someone pull the corners and staple it flat, thinking they were helping him and he got pretty huffy about it and put it back with the bulge in the middle.

What earthly purpose could there be for doing that?   
Title: Re: why bulge the target out??
Post by: billd on April 27, 2012, 10:54:03 PM
It makes it a closer shot!   ;D
Title: Re: why bulge the target out??
Post by: bgf on April 27, 2012, 11:02:06 PM
Maybe he had some sort of vision problem and doing so helped him see the target correctly.  If he was trying to cheat otherwise, I think he was only cheating himself as it would disperse his shots slightly further from center on the short axis.

P.S. -- I also know one or two shooters who hang their targets crooked to differentiate them, so they don't shoot someone else's -- possibly they can't always make out the numbers above the hangers.
Title: Re: why bulge the target out??
Post by: SCLoyalist on April 27, 2012, 11:50:30 PM
 Could be the target not being flush with the backer would make the holes more visible through a spotting scope.   Or, maybe he was counting on a bigger ragged hole more apt to cut a scoring line.    Shooters believe in all sorts of superstition and voodoo, so heaven only knows.
Title: Re: why bulge the target out??
Post by: Roger Fisher on April 28, 2012, 12:43:52 AM
Should be able to recall that goin gs on; but can't remember it happening much less who it was....

So the question is: why would he insist on doing that?  Other than voodoo, I would suggest that posting a loose target or posting the target over a 'shot out', section of the backer would cause a larger and ragged shot hole. Said shooter may have been one that would take advantage of a 'newer' range officer and claim a one hole group when in fact he simply shot one shot (or more) in the bank.  Of course the 1 hole 'group' would have been in the 10 ring.... ::)  I know of that practice occuring and the answer was to use a target with 3 bulls or crows or squirrels or/or/or!  This was at shoots using 3 shot targets in lieu of 5 shots...  I think your man had that practice in mind when he insisted on puffing out the target in that manner.   

What say you...
Title: Re: why bulge the target out??
Post by: Daryl on April 28, 2012, 12:58:45 AM
I know dang well that with my luck, if there was a ragged hole, it would run outwards and drag the centre of the ball's hole to the next lower point.
Title: Re: why bulge the target out??
Post by: cable on April 28, 2012, 08:47:52 PM
i had a friend who shot his flintier a lot and claimed he could hit a 4" or 6" balloon more consistently and at longer distances than a 4" or 6" target, of the same color and placed exactly the same.  he is a rather brilliant guy, seriously, a research physician, and more or less accidentally discovered this.  maybe the eye can 'outline and define' a 3D target more easily. from an 'evolutionary' standpoint this might make sense.

would be interesting to do a little testing of this idea?!
Title: Re: why bulge the target out??
Post by: Candle Snuffer on April 28, 2012, 11:31:06 PM
i had a friend who shot his flintier a lot and claimed he could hit a 4" or 6" balloon more consistently and at longer distances than a 4" or 6" target, of the same color and placed exactly the same.  he is a rather brilliant guy, seriously, a research physician, and more or less accidentally discovered this.  maybe the eye can 'outline and define' a 3D target more easily. from an 'evolutionary' standpoint this might make sense.

would be interesting to do a little testing of this idea?!

Maybe so, Cable?

However, those that I've shot against who have made the claim they are better at hitting "fun" targets then shooting at black scoring rings, well they can't seem to hit those either...lol  :D

The guy must of had some reason for wanting his target bulged out, but who knows for sure what that is?

Title: Re: why bulge the target out??
Post by: squire on May 01, 2012, 04:50:03 AM
Maybe he's just superstitious.
Title: Re: why bulge the target out??
Post by: mjm46@bellsouth.net on May 01, 2012, 02:29:58 PM
I once competed at alot of the same places as Roger Fisher, and maybe he knows.  There was a fellow that would always staple one side of his target to the backer and then bulge the target out away from the backer before stapling the other side.  He did it at every match, every target.  It always held the middle of the target about a half inch forward of the backer.    Once  up at Jacobsburg about 1985, I saw someone pull the corners and staple it flat, thinking they were helping him and he got pretty huffy about it and put it back with the bulge in the middle.

What earthly purpose could there be for doing that?  
How much of a bulge did he have? (Sounds dirty) I'll try it I can use any advantage possible. ;D