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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: hurricane on May 03, 2012, 12:05:37 AM

Title: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: hurricane on May 03, 2012, 12:05:37 AM
Here is the URL to the results:

http://www.cowanauctions.com/auctions/catalog.aspx?SaleId=259&Page=1

What is most interesting is how many items related to "Longrifles and accoutrements" were passed and the prices realized for the items that sold , both high and low sold items.
Hurricane
Title: Re: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: KMKFLASH on May 03, 2012, 12:16:28 AM
I FIND IT ODD THAT ITEMS 1 THRU 16 ARE NOT THERE.
Title: Re: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: Avlrc on May 03, 2012, 12:22:03 AM
Yeah, those are the ones I was curious as to see what they went for!
Title: Re: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: JDK on May 03, 2012, 12:39:04 AM
Do any of you know if the passed or $0 items just didn't meet a an opening price or the reserve?  Certainly they were not pulled.

Overall it appears there were some real bargins....and some, not so much.

Thanks for posting this for us.  J.D.
Title: Re: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: JTR on May 03, 2012, 01:22:09 AM
Re 1 thru 16. Did they all get pulled? Strange doings...
John
Title: Re: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: louieparker on May 03, 2012, 02:14:46 AM
I thought one of the 16 sold but I may be mistaken...The opening was to be 250.000.....LP
Title: Re: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: flintriflesmith on May 03, 2012, 04:11:40 AM
Check out Lot#97.

John Painter worked in the edge of Botetourt Co. just north of Roanoke, VA. When I was a kid there were people alive who remembered him building rifles. He made most of his own locks in a unique style --- they looked a bit like some of the Bedford Co. PA locks but were held on with two wood screws. The hammers are also different. Locally they were called squirrel tail hammers.

This one is by far the finest example of his work known but I was surprized by the hammer price.

Gary
Title: Re: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: WElliott on May 03, 2012, 04:16:48 AM
I was surprised at the Painter, too, Gary.  I bought and sold a very nice Painter some years ago for 1/10 the price.  Maybe two Painter relatives were chasing this one.
Title: Re: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: eddillon on May 03, 2012, 04:19:18 AM
Lot #46 sure has some similarities to this one in the ALR museum.

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=21625.0
Title: Re: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: KMKFLASH on May 03, 2012, 04:23:36 AM
I'VE E-MAILED COWANS AND ASKED WHAT HAPPENED TO LOTS 1 THRU 16. LET'S SEE IF I GET AN ANSWER.
Title: Re: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: flintriflesmith on May 03, 2012, 02:18:16 PM
I believe that confidentiality concerns prevent Cowans from posting the auction results for items where the owner was identified in the sale. That isn't just for this sale--but all sales where the collector is identified.

Those items consigned anonymously have the info made public.

Gary
Title: Re: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: KMKFLASH on May 03, 2012, 03:20:49 PM
GOT A EMAIL BACK FROM COWANS STATING THAT "RESERVES WERE NOT MET ON A LOT OF THOSE ITEMS".
Title: Re: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: rich pierce on May 03, 2012, 07:12:35 PM
I believe that confidentiality concerns prevent Cowans from posting the auction results for items where the owner was identified in the sale. That isn't just for this sale--but all sales where the collector is identified.
Gary

That seems like a wise practice.
Title: Re: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: Bob Warren on May 04, 2012, 03:25:39 AM
I would just like to say that at least some of those guns do not belong to the original owner anymore.  I would also like to say that one was now mine but I can not!
Title: Re: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: JCKelly on May 05, 2012, 04:32:49 AM
Not exactly a Long Rifle, but I did get a 3-1/2" barrel underhammer pistol & there was apparently only one other bidder. So yes, the price was low. Supposed to be a pill-lock which would make it rather early in the percussion period. I do not, however, know how to tell the difference between a pill-lock & one of those that used an inside-out percussion cap. That is, a cap w the priming on the outside, which cap was stuck on the nose of the hammer.

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi451.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq240%2F4JamesKelly%2FUnderhammerfff8541.jpg&hash=1f663156b2b45410c33cebf286d1351d20f7e1ea)

Remember, Guys, Beauty is in the Eyeball of the Beholder!
Title: Re: Cowans Auction 5/2
Post by: mr. no gold on May 05, 2012, 06:14:42 AM
Nice underhammer 'boot' pistol you have there. Good on you for getting it. These little guns were popular with the whalers apparently as several have been found with similar decorations and style. Oftentimes, they will have whaling motifs on them. What material is inlaid into this one? You may have a whaler gun. Thanks for posting it here.
Dick