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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: hinben54 on August 14, 2013, 02:35:45 AM
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Hello all, I found this rifle in a local gun shop was wondering if anyone might have more information concerning who made it and possible value.
http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/hinben54/library/?sort=3&evt=email_share&page=1 (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/hinben54/library/?sort=3&evt=email_share&page=1)
The rifle has an octagonal upper rifled barrel in approximately .36 caliber. The lower barrel is octagonal to round smoothbore and approximately .69 caliber/20 Ga. I spoke with a few individuals who advised this rifle is definitely not a Leman rifle or Lancaster School rifle but most likely an Upper Susquehanna School rifle. There are some markings on the top of the barrel although not in the typical location behind the rear sight, these were located between the front and rear sights on the top flat.
I started to look on here and found a few rifles and markings which are similar in appearance including a rifle made by Charles Baum with a similar curved cheek piece and another by Baum, swivel breech, with the same barrel length(34") and a similar looking ramrod thimble on the left hand side (www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6545650)
I looked at a Samuel Laudenslager swivel breech and found a patchbox engraving somewhat close to what could be faintly made out on top of the barrel.
I don't know if this double rifle could be possibly made by a Baum or Laudenslager or maybe someone else. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Ben
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hinben54
For your'e information .69 is closer to 16 ga. 20 ga. is .62 cal.
Hungry Horse
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Pictures are postage stamp size on my computer. ???
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Micro pictures here, too....
John
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Sorry about some of the pictures being small, I copied some of them from this page.
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/14700882_circa-1850-percussion-over-and-under-rifle-with-lo (http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/14700882_circa-1850-percussion-over-and-under-rifle-with-lo)
Pictures are at the bottom of the page.
Ben
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I found that some of the pictures can be enlarged. I was able to get a bigger picture of the lock side of the gun. It is an over/under type gun, not a swivel breech. Different, with just one lock that can be "adjusted" to shoot either the top or
bottom barrel. I don't think I have ever seen one like this..........Don
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Ben,
Nice over-under rifle/shotgun. Like Don, I don't recall ever seeing one configured this way. I'd be interested in seeing more detailed photos of the hammer/drum/nipple set-up on this gun. I can't help you much with the maker identification. For what it's worth, it doesn't look like any Laudenslager guns that I am familiar with.
Mark Loudenslager
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I just put a photo of the lock/nipple/hammer area in photobucket for your viewing pleasure.