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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: smart dog on February 15, 2014, 10:42:15 PM
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Hi Folks,
I have been making progress with my shop. Below is a bench I built as my main woodworking bench. It is styled after French benches from the 17th century but updated of course. It is made of Doug fir laminated and held together with mortices, tennons and oak pegs. The leg vises are hard sugar maple. It probably weighs 300-350 lbs. I became aware of this style bench from reading some books on old ways of working wood. Chris Schwarz wrote an excellent book on work benches and featured this bench as his favorite. I modified his design to accommodate my needs when building the bench. It will be free-standing so I can work on all sides and move it to take advantage of the natural light in my shop.
dave
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Dave,
That is a very beautiful bench...I can tell that quite a lot of thought went into it.
Will
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Oooooohhh, looks nice!
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Beautiful. I want one!
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That is a very pretty bench. I wish I had the time and money to make one like that. I just built a Nicholson joiners bench out of pine construction lumber; not the best material to use, but it was relatively cheap. I still haven't completely finished it, but I guess I should post a picture some time.
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I'm coming over ... with my next rifle and a few chisels and break this thing in !!!
Very nice work bench ... I always love good craftsmanship !!
Allen
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that sir is oe of the nices benchs i have seen . well done
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Dave,
Absolutely beautiful! When are you going to offer the plans for sale? ;D
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Here's an old one of the same style except no shelf on the bottom. Picked up at auction in Mechanicsburg last year.
Your bench is great!
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Hi Schreckmeister,
That is exactly the bench design I used. Even the parallel guide on the bottom of the vise jaw is pegged the way I did mine. Really neat! Thanks,
dave
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With a bench like that I could rule the world!
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That is a great bench you built Dave. You will get many good years of service out of it. I think a lot of guys would
love to have a bench like that including me. I think I could build a nice bench like that, but I still couldn't build a nice longrifle so what good would it do me :D
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Hi Dave: Time well spent! That is a bench to be proud of - in my opinion, based on 42 yrs. of experience,
a decent work bench on which we do gun building cannot be too solid. I like the concept of being able to completely circumvent your work with out having to move it. Well done Dave! Hugh Toenjes
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Thanks everyone for your interest and comments,
For those who would like a little more detail of the construction, I provide some photos below. James, you can get the basic plans in Chris Schwarz's excellent book "Workbenches: from design and theory to construction and use".
I coated the bench with Watco's Danish oil to help the bench top resist oils and glue as well as making it easier to clean up sawdust. This photo shows the top including the tops of the morticed leg tennons and the holes for vises, plane stops, and holdfasts.
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This photo shows the drawbored oak pegs anchoring the morticed leg stretchers. The pegs pull the joint up very tightly.
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The next photo shows the sliding deadman sitting on the "v" track. The top is inserted into a groove on the underside of the bench top.
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This next photo shows the leg vise and the parallel guide inserted in the leg to keep the jaw parallel to the bench when pressing on work. A metal pin is inserted in one of the holes in the guide so that the bottom of the jaw stays parallel with the bench.
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Finally, this photo shows a stock blank held by the leg vise and the sliding deadman at the perfect height and orientation for me to whack in a barrel channel. The metal pin inserted in the parallel guide provides the pivot for the jaws to put pressure on the work.
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dave
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That is an extremely handsome and well crafted bench.
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Dave, That is a master's bench for sure! Wonderful job.
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The results of a well thought out plan done by a craftsman. Wow. Thanks for sharing. Bob
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Excellent workmanship! Well done..
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Lots of thinking went into that. Good job ;D
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Dave what a beautiful bench, if I had one like that, I would be working
in our kitchen. ;) Tim
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This is a great design. I'm finishing up one that is built from laminations of 1" maple plywood. Its cabinet grade stuff that was originally ordered to build nuclear powerplant control boards so I managed to get a few sheets at a good price. Like Schwartz says, "Its the biggest clamp in my shop."
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As promised (or threatened, depending on your point of view), here is a pic of the massive jointers bench I built and a couple of pics of the gun stocking bench I use. All made from 2x construction lumber because it was that or no benches. The jointers bench is 2'x8' and weighs at least 400lbs. It is so heavy because I used almost exclusively 2x12s and 2x6s. If it wasn't pushed up against the wall, it would still move when I used the jointer plane. The other bench is lag screwed to the wall studs at the back.
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Great looking bench Dave. Can you tell me what size screw was used for the vice?
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Hi,
Thanks again everyone. Nice benches Mark. I used construction lumber too. My top is Doug fir, which was pretty clear stuff and a bit more expensive than the cheap spruce used for the legs. If I could have purchased it locally, I would have used southern yellow pine per Schwarz's recommendation. I like the Nicholson-style bench with its massive apron. Maybe my Roubo is heavier than I think but it does not move when I am flattening and squaring up boards with my jack plane.
Smylee, I bought the vise screws from Lee Valley. They are 1 1/8" in diameter but I do not know the thread count. They require at least a 1 1/4" hole to work properly without binding.
dave
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Dave that is a Great bench. One question; How did you get the top so nice and even, a planer?
Tim C.
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Hi Tim,
Thanks for the compliment. I ripped the boards out of 2x8s and 2x10s then planed the edges and faces by hand with a jack plane. The faces only needed a few passes down their centers to make sure the exposed edges were tight. After gluing the top, I flattened the surface with my jack plane and then a few passes with a small belt sander to clean it up a little. It took some time but was not really very hard to do. The top is so heavy that manuevering it on a planer would have been hard without a big crew. The real challenge for me was getting that top mounted on the legs. I could not build it upside down and turn it over, too heavy at least by myself. Instead, I assembled the legs and stretchers and used pipe clamps to hold the leg tenons in the right positions to slide in to the mortices in the top. I then tucked the assembly under the overhang of the bench on which the top was placed and slid the top partially off the bench onto the farthest leg tennons. When they were hooked and that end of the top supported by those legs, I held up the other end of the bench and pushed the other bench away with my back while lowering that end of top onto its tenons. The top lowered itself onto the legs like a slowly sinking ship lubricated with glue. A few taps with a hand sledge padded by wood and the top was seated. I hammered in the oak pegs and it was done. Next I went in the house and poured myself a scotch even though it was only 11:00 am.
dave