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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: olie on January 09, 2015, 02:17:21 AM

Title: Fowlers with a side- slapper locs
Post by: olie on January 09, 2015, 02:17:21 AM
 Where there any single barreled Fowler's or shotguns with side-slapper locks.

             olie
Title: Re: Fowlers with a side- slapper locs
Post by: Kermit on January 09, 2015, 02:44:50 AM
I recall seeing a SxS with left and right mule ears. Not an "original" though. Ugly as a mud fence.
Title: Re: Fowlers with a side- slapper locs
Post by: greybeard on January 09, 2015, 03:56:07 AM
Why not?
Title: Re: Fowlers with a side- slapper locs
Post by: olie on January 09, 2015, 11:13:34 AM
Ya! Why not. Thank you
     
        Olie
Title: Re: Fowlers with a side- slapper locs
Post by: Chris Treichel on January 09, 2015, 05:22:31 PM
There is one on this page... not too ugly. Used to have an HR underhammer but sold it as it was just too ugly.

http://www.muzzleloadingshotguns.com/articles/underhammerandmuleearmuzzleloadingshotguns
Title: Re: Fowlers with a side- slapper locs
Post by: frogwalking on January 09, 2015, 06:08:30 PM
With a shotgun (fowler) I want to be able to cock the piece as I Raise it into firing position (or slide the safety off in a gun that is made that way).  I have never figured out to do this quickly and smoothly with either a mule ear or underhammer.  I have no objections to a gun made this way for someone more dexterous or willing to compromise than I.
Title: Re: Fowlers with a side- slapper locs
Post by: bonron on January 12, 2015, 06:57:14 AM
I heard that there is a guy in Lindsey, Ohio that is going to build a 28 ga. side slapper Fowler. I also heard that maybe the stock was going to be out of hackberry. It will be very interesting to see it when it's completed.
Title: Re: Fowlers with a side- slapper locs
Post by: olie on January 12, 2015, 08:18:37 PM
the hackberry plank is spoken for. I am saving that gaeckle.

         Olie
Title: Re: Fowlers with a side- slapper locs
Post by: bonron on January 12, 2015, 09:11:09 PM
Olie: If you won't use the hackberry, I'll bet Ash would look good if you know where to get ahold of Ash
Title: Re: Fowlers with a side- slapper locs
Post by: JCKelly on January 13, 2015, 12:12:58 AM
Lots of O/U mule ear guns made in Michigan and New York, I presume Ohio as well.

The neat thing is you didn't have to worry about cocking it quickly, or moving the safety to off.

Originals had no safety.

You carried either at full cock or with the hammer down on that fuliminate of mercury cap.

I think the 19th century attitude toward safety was "S--- happens"
Title: Re: Fowlers with a side- slapper locs
Post by: Scota4570 on January 13, 2015, 02:55:34 AM
"Originals had no safety.
You carried either at full cock or with the hammer down on that fuliminate of mercury cap.
I think the 19th century attitude toward safety was "S--- happens"

I made a side slapper rifle.  My main vexation is the safety issue.  I think I can make a rotating cam that prevents the hammer from resting on the cap.  If the cam were spring loaded to rotate out of the way when the hammer is cocked it might be practical. 

Some have suggested a fall away blocking device under the hammer. 

Schemes using a safety notch bother me because they would probably break if if the rifle were dropped on the hammer. 

It might be best to only cap if game were spotted? 

That being said, the nipple is on the side of the barrel is resting right on the main charge.  The ignition speed is no different than a modern rifle.  I have never had a misfire with it.   
Title: Re: Fowlers with a side- slapper locs
Post by: olie on January 13, 2015, 10:16:28 AM
    Ron
      I have a plank of ash that is cut right in the center of the log. It has the hole in it. Should have enough width to get a stock out of it.

       Olie