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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: Ky-Flinter on January 20, 2015, 05:12:36 PM
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Several of the guys missed out on last year's Rasp Shootout due to the weather cancellation, so they asked if we could have one at Boonesborough this year. Heck yeah!
I have a set of US Nicholson 49 and 50, a MicroPlane rasp and an Iwasaki lined up. I will bring a hard chuck of maple to work on.
Please bring your favorite rasps, course to fine, to Boonesborough this Saturday for Rasp Shootout II.
-Ron
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I'm glad that was explained. In my mind as I read the headline I thought: "Why on earth would anybody want to shoot at a rasp....."
And now I know......
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Ron,
Glad to see there is a MicroPlane included in the event. I recently tried one of them and was impressed with the results. This "shootout" will see how the MicroPlane does against the rasps. Heaven knows they cost a lot less than most of the better rasps.
Mole Eyes
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I just got my new Liogier rasp! Wow you need to test one of these also. Bob
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I just got my new Liogier rasp! Wow you need to test one of these also. Bob
We did last winter in the postal Rasp Shootout I (rasp comparison). Search on "Liogier", there are several posts.
Bring yours and come to Boonesborough!
-Ron
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I wish I lived a couple thousand miles closer. I'd be the first one there. I hope you guys appreciate all of your workshops and shows. I'm sure you do by your dedication. Bob
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Is there a bench or a vise there Ron? I can bring some clamps if we need em.
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Thanks Wayne. I was going to bring some clamps too. There are some open stairs in the blockhouse that we can clamp a board to. As an alternative, the weather is supposed to be in the 40's so we may use the vise in the blacksmith's shop.
-Ron
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Tell us what was decided. How did each tested rasp perform? Thanks.
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Tell us what was decided. How did each tested rasp perform? Thanks.
Yes, please give us a run down of the results.
Mole Eyes
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If you have any new info, I'd love to add it to the rasp topic: http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=27762.0
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Guys,
Just a little historical note here.
Here is a nice antique fine cut wood rasp. It is marked BOKER and CAST STEEL, it was made in Germany prior to 1837.
(https://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n514/JamesEverett/Tools/Files/100_5927a.jpg) (http://s1137.photobucket.com/user/JamesEverett/media/Tools/Files/100_5927a.jpg.html)
(https://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n514/JamesEverett/Tools/Files/100_5924a.jpg) (http://s1137.photobucket.com/user/JamesEverett/media/Tools/Files/100_5924a.jpg.html)
Here is a dug artifact from the mid-18th century at a site with both French and British occupation.
(https://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n514/JamesEverett/Tools/Files/Rasp1a.jpg) (http://s1137.photobucket.com/user/JamesEverett/media/Tools/Files/Rasp1a.jpg.html)
Whatever the result of this really neat "rasp shootout" , The wood rasp is nearly unchanged from antiquity. Have a lot of fun at Boonesborough!
Jim
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The rasps on hand at Boonesborough were a US Nicholson 49 and 50, a MicroPlane flat course rasp and a rounded profile Iwasaki.
The Nicholsons look much like the antique rasps in Mr. Everett's post. The Microplane and the Iwaski are both very different designs than conventional rasps.
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi140.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr27%2FKyFlinter%2Fmicroplane_zps632hfdwt.jpg&hash=ccd0b95bf90166fa8e0ef3af0f10125a44bc69f8)
Microplane - those aren't teeth in the rasp sense, each one is a tiny blade.
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi140.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr27%2FKyFlinter%2Fcarvingfile312925_zpsox3vk4gx.jpg&hash=29cf2410191996d60576f5d189085c3f62409ad6)
Iwasaki - rather than conventional rasp teeth, these are rows of tiny scrapers.
The Nicholson 49 and 50 rasps both have a flat side and a rounded side on one tool. More bang for the buck. But the US made versions can be nearly impossible to find.
The Microplane and the Iwasaki have only one cutting surface per tool, so if you want a flat and a curved you have to buy 2 tools. The Iwasaki is priced in the $35 to $40 range. Peachtree Woodworking Supply sells the Microplane handle with 1 blade for $10.99, and other blades that fit the same handle are $7 and $8 each. if you are on a tight budget, these are the way to go.
Rasps produce sawdust, the Microplane and the Iwasaki produce shavings. I think everyone agreed that all the tools we had on hand were good serviceable tools, but the favorite was the Iwasaki. It moved the most wood, but left a fairly smooth surface.
I hope other attendees at Boonesborough will chime in with their take on these tools.
-Ron
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Which model Iwasaki was tested? Medium, Fine, or Extreme Fine?
Thanks, Bill
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Medium. It was as aggressive if not more aggressive as the 49 and gave a cleaner surface. Of course much depends upon hardness of the wood, direction of the grain, and the method applied to the tool. I'm still a big fan of the 49&50 and end up using all three somewhere along the way during a build. It worked really well on a super hard piece of sugar tree which the 49 skipped across.
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My 49 says made in Brazil and I'm not a fan. Are the USA ones really better?
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Yes!!! I have both, and the Brazilian model already shows wear. It's
also newer by 9 years over my USA made Nicholson!!
Al J.