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Title: patchbox cover
Post by: jerrywh on April 11, 2015, 09:22:30 PM
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjwh-flintlocks.net%2Fpatchbox-cover-js-vegas.jpg&hash=f1c0ea036b821b6671e5dbe2d6f610eb38a0ea0e)
 This is a photo of the gun I presented at the Engravers guild show in Vegas 2015. The photo is of the gun in it's construction phase. The carving and stock work  was done by James Schulze. One of the very best carvers I have ever seen. You can see some of the design for the wire work drawn on the wood.
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Post by: tallbear on April 11, 2015, 09:37:17 PM
Thats just stunning Jerry,thanks for posting.

Mitch
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Post by: LRB on April 11, 2015, 09:39:41 PM
  Out of this world beautiful Jerry!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Ed Wenger on April 12, 2015, 03:08:24 AM
Beautiful work, Jerry (as always)!  The wire would be a really nice accent.  Is the piece finished?  if so, any chance you could post some of the finished rifle?  I find myself being drawn more and more to this type of work...  Thanks for posting the photo!


       Ed
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Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on April 12, 2015, 03:14:23 AM
What a privilege to be acquainted with a man of your vision and talent!
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Post by: Captchee on April 12, 2015, 03:42:21 AM
very nice Jerry
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Post by: Rolf on April 12, 2015, 11:13:02 AM
Breath taking as allways.

Best regards
Rolf
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Post by: kaintuck on April 12, 2015, 02:18:18 PM
Super nice.....hope tha cover had a "tether" so as to NEVER drop it :P :o

I wonder haw the fellows get steady hands to do that weird work??....3 beers for me.....then I would tired and quit ;D

Nice work....

Marc n tomtom
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Post by: smart dog on April 12, 2015, 06:47:52 PM
Beautiful Jerry!  I love the gold constrast.  It must look great against the finished walnut.

dave
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Post by: Robby on April 12, 2015, 08:36:53 PM
Do you mind if I tell people I know you.......in a kind of cyber sort of way?!?!?!?! Your stuff never ceases to amaze me.
Robby
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Post by: jerrywh on April 12, 2015, 09:09:02 PM
  Thanks for all the great comments. I can't put any more photos of this gun out until the publishers come out with their publications with this gun in them.  Some of them will be in the Engravers Guild publication soon and then maybe gun digest. 
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Post by: fuzzy on April 13, 2015, 02:14:11 AM
real nice work like to see a Tutorial
 thank you
  Richard
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Post by: eddillon on April 13, 2015, 04:03:02 AM
All I can say is "OMG"!
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Post by: pushboater on April 13, 2015, 05:49:02 AM
Beautiful work!

Capt. David
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Post by: JTR on April 13, 2015, 06:11:46 PM
I got a great hands on look at the finished gun at the Vegas show, and it is spectacular in every detail!
Besides Jerry's obviously fine work, the carving is beautifully done and finely detailed! And needless to say, the fit and finish are as perfect as perfect can be!

Plus I had the pleasure of meeting Jerry, and James Shulze!

John
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Post by: jerrywh on April 13, 2015, 08:24:23 PM
 I can't do a tutorial on this because it would be a course in master engraving and gold gilding. Like a couple of years long. But I will say this. The silver overlaid parts are only .030 thick believe it or not.  It was a major obstacle to do relief engraving of this nature on that thin of metal. To solve the problem after the silver was formed to the basic shape I poured the back side full of fusible  alloy that melts at 165°F. The chisel work was then done and then the selective plating. There is some gold inlay and some plating on the parts.   The silver is nailed on with silver nails. They are not visible because they are incorporated  into the flower designs.
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Post by: Acer Saccharum on April 14, 2015, 06:40:56 PM
To solve the problem after the silver was formed to the basic shape I poured the back side full of fusible  alloy that melts at 165°F.

You have an amazing ability to solve problems. Thanks for sharing.

Tom
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Post by: hanshi on April 14, 2015, 07:26:05 PM
I like plain rifles, too; but couldn't you have at least "fancied" it up just a bit? ;D

That rifle is truly magnificent, as I've come to expect.  My friend, you are surely "something else".
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Post by: bama on April 14, 2015, 08:10:48 PM
That is super work Jerry. I hope to meet you in person some day. Marvelous work.
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Post by: Daryl on April 15, 2015, 06:08:32 PM
Absolutely marvelous, Jerry.
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Post by: Vomitus on April 16, 2015, 12:46:25 AM
  Is this done by a human? Out of this world, Jerry.
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Post by: Topknot on April 16, 2015, 01:58:12 AM
Jerry, as always your work is just above top shelf on everything that you do. Your work will go down in history as the best!

                                                   topknot
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Post by: David Price on April 16, 2015, 02:57:24 AM
Jerry,
Was that carving done by there Jim Schulze that is a dentist and lives in California?   As I remember The Jim Schulze that I am talking about was at the Custom Gun Builders and Engravers show in Reno when we were there representing the CLA. a few years ago.  I thought his name was spelled Schulze,

David Price
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Post by: jerrywh on April 16, 2015, 04:48:25 AM
 David Price.
  It is so good to hear from you. Where do you keep yourself?  Yes that is the Jim. and his name is Schulze.  I recommended  he get your book on wire work and he did.
 Do you know if Grillo is taking any guns to Lexington this year?   
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Post by: Jeff Peters on April 16, 2015, 05:06:31 PM
Wow, What a piece of Art!!!
Jeff
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Post by: David Price on April 17, 2015, 03:05:23 AM
Jerry,
Actually I have been here watching tyne ALR site.  I don't respond very much because there are so many knowledgeable gun builders answering questions before I can respond.

To answer your question about Mr Grillo.  The last I heard, his collection will be on display at the CLA show this year. The entire collection was photographed and will be put into some kind of a book form.  I believe Mark Silver is in charge of that.  I hope it happens, it will be great to see all out rifles on display in one place.  I hope that you will go this year it would be great to see you.
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Post by: jerrywh on April 17, 2015, 09:03:58 AM
 David. If he goes I will go with James Schulze. We will take the Jaeger rifle we had at the Vegas exhibit.  It won three of the top four prizes at the FEGA show.  It is Almost as good as the Grillo gun.   Keep in touch.  .