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General discussion => Contemporary Longrifle Collecting => Topic started by: bones92 on January 18, 2016, 07:04:50 PM
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I happened upon this as part of a deal for something else, and I thought you all would get a kick out of it.
I have not found any other maker marks other than "R. White" on the barrel. The hooked breech plug fits ok, but I think the tang is a wee bit off-kilter so it doesn't butt up quite flush (although it does when the tang and barrel are mated up out of the stock).
The bore is superb. I pulled the plug, lubricated with some lithium grease, and reinstalled (it's easy enough to do with a couple crescent wrenches).
Someone sure spent some time on it! I will likely list it for sale, but I wanted to share it with you fine folk first.
http://imgur.com/a/v7QH6
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is it me or is the forearm just a wee bit slabsided?
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Can you be a bit more specific?
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well,when you take a look at long rifles or half stocks the lines of the stocks tend to be rounded.The forearm is rounded and not so boxed looking.This look can also be what the maker wanted too.Take a look at some photos of half stock hawken rifles or plains style rifles and compare.Does have an interesting look and I'm not saying its a bad look either just pointing it out
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Ah, I see... and you're correct. It is very much slab-sided in the forearm. There may be a very small convex shape (I'll have to see at home) but not much.
Note the copper washer for indexing the drum.
The two screws holding the rear sight leaf to the dovetail are a bit loose, so the rear sight leaf can be moved from side to side. Looks like a 3/8" dovetail, so it's probably easier to order a replacement than to work on this one.
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That's really something....... :-\
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That's really something....... :-\
Nicely put Mike. :o
David
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and some tell it like it is
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Man the guy that made this gun must have had eyes like Marty Feldman. Everything on this gun is about two bubbles off.
Hungry Horse
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I'm not convinced that the German is actually correct, either.
Should be interesting to see what it fetches on auction. I did get a decent Euroarms two-band Enfield, as well, which is what I really wanted.
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That's really something....... :-\
Couldn't have said it better.
As I went down through the pictures...WELL before seeing the inscription cut into the barrel...I have to say...it certainly looks "Germanic"...and I'm not even sure what that means..!! :-\
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That's really something....... :-\
Couldn't have said it better.
As I went down through the pictures...WELL before seeing the inscription cut into the barrel...I have to say...it certainly looks "Germanic"...and I'm not even sure what that means..!! :-\
Looks like a high school project from the German speaking area of Hawaii.
Bob Roller
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He means it looks like Berlin, in the middle of May, circa 1945.
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Looks like one side is flat the opposite side alittle rounded. Huge front sight even I can see. Maybe it was someone's first build?
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Ach du lieber!
Robbystein
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That's really something....... :-\
LoL...
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Dieses Gewehr ist schrecklich, nicht wahr?
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So much for being nice ;D
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Sure glad you have a good sense of humor there bones! Just remember, we're not laughing AT your rifle, we are laughing WITH your rifle! ;D
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Well, if it were my name etched onto the barrel, I suppose it would be painful to bear.
But despite all its shortcomings, there's a part off me that likes it... perhaps only because I've never seen anything like it before. Of course, I'll still sell it... (mainly because I don't have room for every wayward ML that I come across).
Whenever I describe something as "interesting" there's always a wide spectrum of interpretation implied.
Sure glad you have a good sense of humor there bones! Just remember, we're not laughing AT your rifle, we are laughing WITH your rifle! ;D
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My impression is a first build by someone who didn't know what it was supposed to look like. Sorta like MY first one.
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The more I learn about muzzleloading rifles, the more I realize that there are a great number of interpretations on the matter. I think the general consensus is that "more eye candy, more better".
I haven't found any maker marks for the barrel. I'm sort of curious to see how it shoots. However, I have other rifles waiting for their trip to the range, already, so that may not happen.
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This rifle would be a very good piece to do some fixing up on Bones! Change out the sights and strip it down. Take some wood off the forestock and do some reshaping. Then give it a nice refinish. A good rifle for a 2nd chance. Make it a fun project for these dark winter months! It would also be a great learning experience.
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That's really something....... :-\
Ditto.
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It looks as though the barrel key is passing through the barrel. It is quite high.
Germanic??? Yeah the lock does look like a Volkswagon, in profile.
I must admit that the work on the end of the barrel ( muzzle ) is not bad, and the quality of lettering ( although a lot ) on the barrel is impressive.
My knowledge of German is poor, but, did he write his whole family history?
You could strip the gun down ( throw away the barrel, lock, stock, ram rod, trigger, trigger guard, butt plate, tang, sights ) keep the screws and make a new gun. ;D
Fred
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Fred, I'm not sure about keeping the screws, either.
Dan
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Wait, what's wrong with the buttplate? ! ;)
It looks as though the barrel key is passing through the barrel. It is quite high.
Germanic??? Yeah the lock does look like a Volkswagon, in profile.
I must admit that the work on the end of the barrel ( muzzle ) is not bad, and the quality of lettering ( although a lot ) on the barrel is impressive.
My knowledge of German is poor, but, did he write his whole family history?
You could strip the gun down ( throw away the barrel, lock, stock, ram rod, trigger, trigger guard, butt plate, tang, sights ) keep the screws and make a new gun. ;D
Fred
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See, the more y'all pile on, the more I'm tempted to keep it, replace the rear sight, and win the NMLRA world championship with it.
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Now your thinking,they tell you how bad it is in hopes you will sell it cheap.Its worth a small fortune ;D
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Seriously Bones,
It very well could be a good shooter.
If the lock is good and solid, and the bore good, for all intensive purposes you could have a good find.
Many people here make fantastic guns. True beauties to hold.
But often times they get whuped by a lowly CVA or Numrich underhammer. Go figure!
Enjoy your find!
Fred
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ::). It may shoot great, if nothing else it is unique.
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That front sight blade, which appears to be about half a yard wide, is not conducive to good accuracy (for me, anyway). I could swap out the sights and give it a try. That is, if it doesn't sell first.
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the more I'm tempted to keep it, replace the rear sight, and win the NMLRA world championship with it.
That would be quite an accomplishment considering the NMLRA only hosts the national championships and you can only win a class medal. Which of the 496 available classes do you plan to win?
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In all seriousness, I'd be happy just to attend a NMLRA event...