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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: capper on May 24, 2016, 04:21:04 AM

Title: barrel maker or else
Post by: capper on May 24, 2016, 04:21:04 AM
I have recently purchased a barrel on the barrel it says  SCOTT ST. LOUIS  ON the bottom it says L.Weimar
can anybody give reference thanks CAPPER
Title: Re: barrel maker or else
Post by: smylee grouch on May 24, 2016, 05:08:18 AM
There used to be a gunsmith by the name of Doug Scott from the St Louis area. Don't know if he is still there.
Title: Re: barrel maker or else
Post by: Mike_StL on May 24, 2016, 05:51:59 AM
Doug is still here in St. Louis.  He's still putting guns together.

Doug would have made the rifle.  Weimar made the barrel.
Title: Re: barrel maker or else
Post by: Blacksmoke on May 24, 2016, 06:19:16 AM
Hi Guys;  Lynn Weimar was a barrel maker from Kalispell MT. - he worked during 1980's and early 1990's. I think he retired about 1995.  I was at his shop several times in 1992.   Hugh Toenjes
Title: Re: barrel maker or else
Post by: Ky-Flinter on May 24, 2016, 04:22:17 PM
I'm sure glad you guys had the information Capper requested.  I didn't want to find out what the consequences of "or else" would be. ;)

-Ron
Title: Re: barrel maker or else
Post by: capper on May 24, 2016, 04:44:45 PM
Thank you gentleman for the details on barrel I plan on making a bench gun out of the barrel it slugs at .550and has a false muzzle have to figure out what ball to use maybe a .540 to start . Thanks again Capper :)
Title: Re: barrel maker or else
Post by: smylee grouch on May 24, 2016, 05:20:19 PM
Capper, I have a 520 that I use a 530 ball in but do use a tefflon patch 20/1000 thick.
Title: Re: barrel maker or else
Post by: Don Stith on May 24, 2016, 08:46:09 PM
You might get hold of Doug and ask him
 Been 23 years since we left St Louis, but seems like he was using a 555 ball in his nominal 54 cal bench gun in those days. My wife edged him out of the annual Gemmer club bench rest championship just before we moved east
  That was shortly after he won the national championship at Friendship. He shot the previous relay and was cheering her on the whole time
  Great guy,builder and shooter
Title: Re: barrel maker or else
Post by: Mike_StL on May 24, 2016, 11:53:35 PM
I'll see Doug tonight.  I'll ask him if he has any recommendations.
Title: Re: barrel maker or else
Post by: smylee grouch on May 25, 2016, 12:11:03 AM
I've shot with Doug out in Phoenix along with another Gemmer  club member, Ted Saunders. I think Doug still has the chunk gun record at the Western National shoot.
Title: Re: barrel maker or else
Post by: Mike_StL on May 26, 2016, 04:22:55 AM
Well, Capper, I talked to Doug Scott.  He doesn't recall Lynn Weimar.  He does remember getting some barrels from Montana Rifle Company in Kalispel.  He usually didn't sign barrels unless it was part of a gun.  He also recalls that the barrels from Montana Rifle Company were among the most affordable (actually he said cheap) but often very good performance could result from a finished rifle.

I need more information about your barrel such as length, dimensions across the flats and did it have sights and underlugs as if it were installed in a stock.

The best Doug can remember of a approximately 52 caliber false muzzled barrel was one he built up for a customer in California as an English Rifle with a false muzzle for light bench shooting.  He doesn't recall the suggested loading.
Title: Re: barrel maker or else
Post by: capper on May 26, 2016, 05:25:47 AM
It says on the bottom of barrel for Bill Polkahorn the mayor Doug SCOTT 1986 34" long 1&1/8 across the flats
Title: Re: barrel maker or else
Post by: Daryl on May 26, 2016, 07:00:37 PM
Thank you gentleman for the details on barrel I plan on making a bench gun out of the barrel it slugs at .550and has a false muzzle have to figure out what ball to use maybe a .540 to start . Thanks again Capper :)

If you are seriously interested in Bench Rest - a .550" ball in a .550" bore may the place "to start", then getting larger is the direction to go from there.

This is not a trail walk rifle, but that barrel, properly crowned for a walk-around - plains-type rifle would make for an interesting 12 to 12 1/2 pounder, depending on the length of barrel.  My 1 1/8" x 34" Hawken back in the 70's was 12 pounds. If made up this way, I'd start with a .545" ball and 12 ounce denim - about .0225" compressed - depending on your measuring tool.
Title: Re: barrel maker or else
Post by: Mike_StL on May 26, 2016, 09:03:28 PM
I think that Bill Polkahorn was the person who had Doug Scott make the English Sporting Rifle.
Title: Re: barrel maker or else
Post by: capper on May 27, 2016, 02:07:26 AM
Thanks for info