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Title: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle - updated with engraving 8-30-16
Post by: bama on May 24, 2016, 06:53:13 PM

First let me say thanks to everyone at the CLA show that stopped by my table and said hello, it was great to see you all. Celeste and I had a great time as allways. I had the pleasure of having a John Bivins rifle displayed on my table and that got quite a bit of attention. It was one of his earlier rifles but still a great work of art, thanks Tim.

I had the finished ladies rifle on display and it got quite a response from everyone. I started this rifle the last part of March and worked on it pretty much full time except for a few projects that I had to get out. I think it turned out pretty good. Here are a few pictures of the finished rifle. Thanks for looking.

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The post below was originally part of Davebozell's  "Show us your current project" thread.  The moderators have split the many projects in the original thread out into individual threads so the members can more easily ask questions and the builders can more easily answer.

You guys sure have a bunch of interesting projects in the works. It will be great to see all of the updates on these.

Here is my current project. It is going to be a ladies rifle. It will have a 12 1/2" trigger pull, a hand inlet 38" long 50cal "B" weight barrel and one of the best pieces of sugar maple that I have ever used, it has very tight stripe from nose to butt and is very hard. It is going to be a caplock, I am using on of Jim Chamber's conversion lock for this project. The triggers are modified Davis triggers.

Here are a few pictures:

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Title: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: davebozell on May 25, 2016, 03:05:22 AM

I'm glad to see several of you hand inletting your barrels.  Mine has been slow going, but I'm slowly making progress.  (As well as learning new ways to dig walnut splinters out of my fingers.)

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle - update
Post by: bama on July 13, 2016, 08:16:15 PM

A few more pictures of this project. It is moving along slowly but I am in the carving stage and should finish the carving this week. Next week will be the engraving then on to the finish hopefully the next week. I hope you enjoy the pictures and thanks for looking.

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Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: smylee grouch on July 13, 2016, 08:51:34 PM

That's going to be one happy lady when your done. Very nice.

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: oldtravler61 on July 13, 2016, 09:40:20 PM

Bama the rifle is coming along right nicely. It's posts like these that give a clear picture tire of how the building process is done. Thank you very much.  Mike

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: greybeard on July 13, 2016, 09:58:52 PM

Bama. Would you explain the latch set up on the patch box please?  Looks very different to my eye.
     Very grand rifle I must say.  Bob     

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: SingleMalt on July 13, 2016, 11:53:14 PM

The carving and wire inlay are top notch.  I'd like to see details of the box release too.

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: Howard on July 13, 2016, 11:58:10 PM

Jim, I like that! Good job so far.

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: Tim Crosby on July 14, 2016, 12:18:05 AM

 Very nice. The wire work looks like two different thicknesses, is it or is it just the photo? For some applications thicker looks better, to me anyway. Did you cut it?

 Thanks, Tim C. 

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: bama on July 14, 2016, 12:45:17 AM

The release is what is called a hidden hinge release. This is where one of the hinge knuckles is false and acts as the release button. In this case it is the upper knuckle. This type of release is found on some Virginia rifles by the Lauck and Sheets families of gunsmiths and probably others.

Picture of the upper false hinge knuckle.
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Inthis picture I am trying to show how the false knuckle is slit so it will move over the end of the side plate enough to release the catch.
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Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: bama on July 14, 2016, 01:06:59 AM

Sorry Tim I did not see your post about the wire until I posted the release pictures.

Yes I cut my own wire ribbon from sterling sheet. This sheet is fairly thin, sorry I forget the guage. It is all one thickness. I do taper it a bit in places so that may be why it looks like different thicknesses. I like to cut my own wire ribbon because I can control the width of the ribbon. Most that you buy is to narrow for my taste plus not many offer sterling wire. I determined a long time ago that life is to short to use German Silver wire ribbon. I do use brass wire sometimes but it is easier to use than the German Silver wire as it does not work harden as quickly.

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: Mike Brooks on July 14, 2016, 01:34:35 AM

Gonna be pretty spiffy! ;D

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: SingleMalt on July 14, 2016, 01:42:04 AM

Your box latch release makes perfect sense and after reading the post, I remembered seeing it somewhere.  Maybe "Recreating The American Longrifle?"  Good job!

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: PPatch on July 14, 2016, 02:00:37 AM

Quote from: davebozell on May 25, 2016, 03:05:22 AM

(As well as learning new ways to dig walnut splinters out of my fingers.)

My technique with splinters (the small ones) is to leave them alone for a day or two, it is then very easy to pop them out due to the puss that surrounds them. True.  ;D

dave

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: PPatch on July 14, 2016, 02:01:57 AM

Bama; That is a beautiful rifle. Nice work all around, the inletting on that butt plate return finial is tops.

dave

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: Tim Crosby on July 14, 2016, 02:33:04 PM

Quote from: bama on July 14, 2016, 01:06:59 AM

Sorry Tim I did not see your post about the wire until I posted the release pictures.

Yes I cut my own wire ribbon from sterling sheet. This sheet is fairly thin, sorry I forget the guage. It is all one thickness. I do taper it a bit in places so that may be why it looks like different thicknesses. I like to cut my own wire ribbon because I can control the width of the ribbon. Most that you buy is to narrow for my taste plus not many offer sterling wire. I determined a long time ago that life is to short to use German Silver wire ribbon. I do use brass wire sometimes but it is easier to use than the German Silver wire as it does not work harden as quickly.

 Thank, TC

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: P.W.Berkuta on July 14, 2016, 05:21:52 PM

Fancy - Schmancy -- LOOKS GREAT -- love to see the final product ;D

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: Top Jaw on July 15, 2016, 03:51:11 AM

Why are you covering all that nice looking wood up with carving Jim!?   ???   
That one's gonna be a beauty!!

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: oldtravler61 on July 15, 2016, 04:36:21 AM

Mighty fine rifle. The patch box release is very cool.

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: Joe S. on July 15, 2016, 01:33:09 PM

Going to be a real nice rifle.

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle
Post by: bama on August 01, 2016, 01:44:59 AM

I have started the engraving on this project and thought I would share a few pictures. I hope to have this rifle finished for the CLA show this month. So I had better get back to work. ::)

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Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle - updated with engraving 7-31-16
Post by: SingleMalt on August 01, 2016, 02:03:17 AM

Nice, crisp engraving.

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle - updated with engraving 7-31-16
Post by: wattlebuster on August 01, 2016, 03:12:59 AM

very sharp ;D

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle - updated with engraving 7-31-16
Post by: B Shipman on August 01, 2016, 05:02:50 AM

Really  like the release.

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle - updated with engraving 7-31-16
Post by: draken on August 01, 2016, 05:18:57 AM

Bama, Superb job on that patch box release! 
Are all the white metal inlays coin silver or are they sterling ?

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle - updated with engraving 7-31-16
Post by: bama on August 01, 2016, 06:18:30 PM

Thanks for the comments guys. I have been working hard on this rifle and I hope to have it ready for the CLA show.

Bill I have made this type of release a couple of times now and it is really growing on me. I have a couple more projects that I will probably use this type of release on.

Draken the white looking inlays are cut and formed from sterling sheet that I get from Rio Grande. In my research of the amount of silver in coins available during colonial times and the amount of silver in sterling is very close in silver content. I think it is closer in silver content than many of our modern silver coins. The main thing I like about the sterling sheet is it has a consistant thickness and it is dead soft from the beginning. There is a lot more work to get coins down to inlay thickness and then you have to anneal before you start making the inlay, get rid of hammer marks and the such. I feel I can give a better product for less work at current silver cost and not worry about distroying an antique coin in the process. It may not be as romantic to say that I cut it from sterling sheet instead of saying I pounded all the inlays out of coin but to be honest I cannot tell the difference when all the work is done.

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle - updated with engraving 7-31-16
Post by: Robin Henderson on August 02, 2016, 03:47:47 AM

Jim, I'm rooting for you to have it done and at Lexington. Would love to see it in its completed state. Sandy, I'm sure, will love it.

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle - updated with engraving 8-30-16
Post by: bama on August 23, 2016, 08:10:27 PM

Updated this topic.  ;D

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle - updated with engraving 8-30-16
Post by: KLMoors on August 24, 2016, 01:17:07 AM

Looks great Bama.  That gun has a lot of class.  Going to be one happy lady!

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle - updated with engraving 8-30-16
Post by: pushboater on August 24, 2016, 06:55:34 PM

Beautiful rifle Bama. Like everyone else has said, that Patchbox release is nice. I think I remember reading about such a release in Peter Alexander's Book. Great work!

Capt. David

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle - updated with engraving 8-30-16
Post by: mark esterly on August 25, 2016, 12:35:13 AM

you guys set the bar awfully high.   i think THIS is the "golden age of the longrifle".
i'd need two lifetimes to get near the skill level i see here.

Title: Re: Current project by Bama - Ladies Rifle - updated with engraving 8-30-16
Post by: Daryl on August 25, 2016, 04:20:51 AM

Samdy is a lucky lady!