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Title: Hooked front for flint lock plate. Any suggestions on how to do it?
Post by: Don Stith on September 28, 2016, 03:16:28 PM
Guess subject says it all. I think Mike Brooks has mentioned doing this
Title: Re: Hooked front for flint lock plate. Any suggestions on how to do it?
Post by: Mike Brooks on September 28, 2016, 03:38:30 PM
I have threaded a short section of bolt in the lock plate to use for the hook. You can use a screw with a head with a flat underside for the post in the stock. You can also fashion an L shaped nail and drive it in the stock to hook to  too. I have used both ways.  I often use the L shaped nails to attach trigger guards and buttplate finials on English fowling guns.
Title: Re: Hooked front for flint lock plate. Any suggestions on how to do it?
Post by: Chris Treichel on September 28, 2016, 05:25:33 PM
Can also solder an L shaped bit to the lock plate and hook that into a staple
Title: Re: Hooked front for flint lock plate. Any suggestions on how to do it?
Post by: Hungry Horse on September 28, 2016, 06:19:53 PM
 I use a staple, and a reshaped wood screw. These are really nice on a slim squirrel rifle where there isn't much room for a through bolt. It works well for the anchor point on the front of the triggerguard on ultra thin rifles too.

  Hungry Horse
Title: Re: Hooked front for flint lock plate. Any suggestions on how to do it?
Post by: jerrywh on September 28, 2016, 06:57:15 PM
 This is how I do most of my European guns. Some times a small pin goes down through the stock at the side of the barrel channel and through the end of the screw that goes into the stock. This is done on some French double shotguns in the 18th century.


(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjwh-flintlocks.net%2Flock-hook.jpg&hash=adf58cbc155a786a0f88f1d1a41f64b14860b59b)
Title: Re: Hooked front for flint lock plate. Any suggestions on how to do it?
Post by: Don Stith on September 28, 2016, 07:08:36 PM
Thanks to all
I want to do one of these but was not sure what they looked like
Don
Title: Re: Hooked front for flint lock plate. Any suggestions on how to do it?
Post by: L. Akers on September 28, 2016, 10:10:00 PM
My method is similar to Jerry's except I use a #6 flat-head wood screw, shaped as jerry's, screwed into the front of the lock mortise and a mating slot cut and filed into the nose of the lockplate.  The top of the screw, filed to eliminate the slot, is flush with the outside surface of the lockplate.
Title: Re: Hooked front for flint lock plate. Any suggestions on how to do it?
Post by: Gunnermike on September 29, 2016, 02:20:37 AM
Here's a photo from a H.W. Mortimer gun (c.1790) on Lewis & Drake site, it shows a nice view of the front hook.  An 'L' shaped stud threaded or riveted thru the lockplate.
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi35.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fd186%2FDD832%2FDecorated%2520images%2FMortimer%252016bore%2520flint%2520w_zps2kdvgfpg.jpg&hash=45f715f5823a5ffc9d97d7c9016830089d429a86) (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/DD832/media/Decorated%20images/Mortimer%2016bore%20flint%20w_zps2kdvgfpg.jpg.html)

Here's a Clark gun from Lewis & Drake showing the lockplate hook and the lock inlet with the hook screw:
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi35.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fd186%2FDD832%2FDecorated%2520images%2FClark%2520l_zpscgx0dwat.jpg&hash=46b8c411dad081c4953c0be47116848de16724f8) (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/DD832/media/Decorated%20images/Clark%20l_zpscgx0dwat.jpg.html)
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi35.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fd186%2FDD832%2FDecorated%2520images%2FClark%2520e_zps7f8ib65r.jpg&hash=f1fc713fed42fc177fc6e89ab139e8fd9bf9b893) (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/DD832/media/Decorated%20images/Clark%20e_zps7f8ib65r.jpg.html)

There's nothing like looking at the craftsmanship of these pieces that makes me want to put all my tools in a box and nail it shut.....and just post photos on the internet instead.  Good luck, Mike
Title: Re: Hooked front for flint lock plate. Any suggestions on how to do it?
Post by: smylee grouch on September 29, 2016, 02:29:52 AM
Very elaborate lock of what looks like top end quality. Nice clear photo of how to do the job.
Title: Re: Hooked front for flint lock plate. Any suggestions on how to do it?
Post by: Bob Roller on September 29, 2016, 01:45:32 PM

A fine way to start the day. The beautiful redrawn spring on the top lock and the simple elegant mechanism
of the lower lock. That one would not be hard to copy with proper tools and materials.
Thanks a lot for posting these.

Bob Roller