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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: Ray Settanta on September 04, 2017, 02:12:26 AM

Title: Loose percussion drum
Post by: Ray Settanta on September 04, 2017, 02:12:26 AM
What is the procedure involved in fixing a loose percussion drum?
Title: Re: Loose percussion drum
Post by: Mark Elliott on September 04, 2017, 02:28:11 AM
That would depend on why it is loose.    A restorer would have to look at the rifle.   That said,  if this is an antique and the drum isn't gong to fall off,  it would probably be best to leave it alone.
Title: Re: Loose percussion drum
Post by: Daryl on September 04, 2017, 10:25:35 PM
I assume Ray wants to shoot it.
Title: Re: Loose percussion drum
Post by: Ray Settanta on September 05, 2017, 03:43:11 AM
Yes, I do. I haven't found much information and some of it is conflicting.
Title: Re: Loose percussion drum
Post by: rich pierce on September 05, 2017, 03:58:33 AM
As said, a lot depends on why it is loose. If the threads are shot or stripped or if it simply has been rotated to where the nipple is too far forward, etc. 

If the barrel threads or drum threads are shot, the drum must be replaced and if the barrel threads are the problem, it will need to be replaced with one with a larger threaded portion. 

If it is rotated too far forward, a thin washer could be used.

If the drum is not well supported by the lock, the drum could be in danger of shearing due to the hammer impact. This would need to be solved.
Title: Re: Loose percussion drum
Post by: T*O*F on September 05, 2017, 05:17:27 AM
Is the gun an antique or a contemporary?
Title: Re: Loose percussion drum
Post by: Ray Settanta on September 05, 2017, 04:23:20 PM
It's an antique. In order for the drum to be tight, it has to be rotated just past the original position. Of course that puts the nipple out of the correct position. Some advice was to put a shim in. Others said never put a shim in.
Title: Re: Loose percussion drum
Post by: rich pierce on September 05, 2017, 05:53:15 PM
The "never put a shim in" advice usually points to concerns that something untoward led to the looseness: worn or bad threads, lack of lockplate support, etc. If you can rule out or mitigate any of those, I would not oppose using a shim.

The better solution is replacement in case there is fatigue. But in an antique you'd have to have restoration skills to do that and not have it stick out like a sore thumb. Or drum.
Title: Re: Loose percussion drum
Post by: Ray Settanta on September 06, 2017, 02:38:28 AM
Thanks for the advice, everybody. Looks like I'll have to let an expert look at it to find out exactly why the drum is loose. Maybe I should not shoot this one.