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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: oldgunsmith on September 06, 2017, 06:32:30 PM
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I have an old one. The barrel is 42" ,cal. 40. Full stock, striped maple, very plain. No ornamentation, no patchbox, all iron furniture, double set triggers. Toe plate and butt plate are staked in place. Weighs close to 13 pounds. It has two fore-end caps, first is iron sheet metal and the second joins the first like it was "poured" in place and appears to be pewter. On the top flat, between the rear sight and breech plug it is stamped J, McKee. Have been told he was from Mecklenburg County, NC.
Any info you guys have would be great.
John
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Only way to tell for sure is with pictures.
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will have to figure out how to post them here
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will have to figure out how to post them here
This will tell you how.... http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=43575.0
-Ron
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McKee trained under Zenas Alexander in Mecklenburg County. He then moved to Buncombe County where he made Appachlian School rifles.
Michael
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Am sending a few photos:
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a few more:
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last batch:
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Looks like that gun has had a longer McKee marked barrel placed in the stock, I believe the original barrel was a bit shorter. I think that's why it has the extra added on pewter nose cap. I don't know enough about McKee's work in the mountains to know if the stock is McKee's work or not, Mike Briggs could probably tell you.
It's a very attractive Mt rifle.
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Cool Rifle!! Do you have any idea where it came from, provenance? I really like the mounts , nicely made! . Nice Find! Thanks for showing it. Nate
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Mike -- I believe the stock and barrel have always been as they are now. This is truly a poor man's rifle. The only part of the barrel that is octagon is the part that shows. The bottom of the barrel (which still shows the hammer forging) is round.
Nate ---- I have no written provenance on this rifle. I purchased it from an estate about 20 years ago. Have had it in a museum in Mason County, Texas. This county is noted for the Hoo Doo War which was essentially a feud between the Anglos and the German settlers. Most of the Anglos involved were from Mecklenburg County, N C. Found it very interesting that this old rilfe would also turn up here from a descendant of the locals.
I have always wondered about the lock. Any info ?? Could it be a flintlock changed to percussion ??
John
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The lock looks like it was always percussion.
-Ron
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Looks like that gun has had a longer McKee marked barrel placed in the stock, I believe the original barrel was a bit shorter. I think that's why it has the extra added on pewter nose cap. I don't know enough about McKee's work in the mountains to know if the stock is McKee's work or not, Mike Briggs could probably tell you.
It's a very attractive Mt rifle.
I am with Mike on this one....that stock had a shorter barrel.