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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: Adrie luke on September 28, 2017, 04:40:49 PM

Title: Flintlock rifle
Post by: Adrie luke on September 28, 2017, 04:40:49 PM
Update of the Lancaster.

Slowly I move on. When I made the look a like of David Prices Swivel Breech he told me to stay in the past.
It is good that he told me that, because maybe I go to far and loose reality.
The double trigger I made works good.
To finish the Lancaster I still have to make some little things, like the patch box, the noose cap, the sights and some screws.
When it is finished I will show the rifle.









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Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: David Price on September 29, 2017, 02:19:15 AM
Adrie,

Looking very good except the area just ahead of the lock.  It is too square.  That should be round and sort of die into the panels of the lock.  The carvings look really  great.  Keep up the good work.  Looking forward to seeing it all finished.

David Price
Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: Adrie luke on September 30, 2017, 08:16:40 PM
David,
Thanks for your support. It was exact the right moment.



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Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: David Price on October 01, 2017, 03:04:54 AM
Adrie,
Looking much better.  Be sure that the round part goes all the way into the lock panels.

David Price
Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: Justin Urbantas on October 01, 2017, 05:37:01 PM
Does that lock actually work?
Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: Adrie luke on October 01, 2017, 06:32:08 PM
Justin
It works perfect
Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: SingleMalt on October 01, 2017, 07:14:29 PM
Amazing work!  If not for the boards on the table and lighter, I'd never know the size of it.
Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on October 01, 2017, 08:13:27 PM
Adrie:  your work is truly amazing, and I applaud you.

As a point of detail. I would like to see the forward and rearward extensions of your trigger guard inlet almost flush with the bottom of the stock.  You may need to file them a little thinner, rather than remove a lot more wood, but that would be a simple thing for you.  Also, if you have installed pins to secure the guard, simply fill the guard's pinning tabs, and re-drill once the guard is inlet fully.  This small detail makes a big difference in the credibility of the rifle.
And we want to see lots more pictures!
Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: Adrie luke on October 01, 2017, 09:15:15 PM
Taylor Sapergia,

Thanks for your support.
As you can see on the picture I have inlayed the trigger card.
This is the measure for the trigger that I need.
You are right, it is very thick. Later on, when everything is ready, I will check to make the rifle as good as possible.
I have to make the rifle whit only the help of pictures and a drawing.
As you know I make all the parts by hand and have to focus on so much, that sometimes you do not see the total of the parts.
When all comes together it is good to get response of you and David Price. It makes me more alert.
By this rifle I change my work. Today I work with the Iron and tomorrow with the wood.
So I can look back on what I have made and try to see my one mistakes.
I learn every day. For me this is a hobby and it goes VERY far. I am not doing it for a living and I had never someone who told me how to work.
By doing it I learn.



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Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: Justin Urbantas on October 01, 2017, 11:09:15 PM
Very cool!! What caliber is it? What did you use for the barrel?
Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on October 01, 2017, 11:20:12 PM
Adrie:  your last picture shows how deeply you have inlet the guard's ends, and it looks great!  Now, take a sharp scribe, with the guard in the stock, and scribe around the brass that is above the wood.  Reduce the thickness of the brass so that there is only as much metal above the wood as in the wood.  Then taper the brass down to the scribe line.  I'll see if I can find an image that will explain this better, and post it here.  This is not a difficult thing to do.

Looking at photos of my own work, I will amend my advice, to say leave twice as much brass above the wood as in it, and cut facets in that brass down to your scribe line.  Here's a couple of examples, and I hasten to add, there are many other builders with far better work to emulate than mine.

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Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: Mike Brooks on October 02, 2017, 01:02:48 AM
Adrie,  You are doing a great job. take a holiday to the USA during one of our big antique arms shows so you can handle some antiques, you'll find it money well invested. I always learn a lot from handling antique rifles.
Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: Adrie luke on October 08, 2017, 07:27:31 PM
Mike Brooks,

I visited your old topics. Your rifles look very old. You make the metal bleu/grey. Is that the right color for the metal in the past?
Is it all right to use the brown color for the metal in that time?

More pictures. 


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Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: PPatch on October 08, 2017, 07:34:14 PM
You're doing an amazing job, especially at the scale you are working at Adrie.

Taylor: "... there are many other builders with far better work to emulate than mine."

HA, You made me chuckle! You'll do Taylor, you'll do... I would copy your work (and have) any day.

dave
Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: Robert Wolfe on October 08, 2017, 08:06:43 PM
Don't forget that your patchbox screws should be iron, not brass.
Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: hanshi on October 08, 2017, 09:57:22 PM
When do you plan on taking your first deer with it?  ::)
Title: Re: Flintlock rifle
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on October 08, 2017, 10:20:25 PM
That's great work Ardie...much better.  what a lovely little rifle that is going to be!