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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: elk killer on December 20, 2017, 01:35:35 AM

Title: Front sight blade
Post by: elk killer on December 20, 2017, 01:35:35 AM
OK so I know the wrong way to do this,,, so what's the right way?
Talking about installing a blade with no dove tail..
I like that look a lot, cut a small groove in the barrel
and used the pinch method, but is easier said than done
has to be a better way 😊
Title: Re: Front sight blade
Post by: rich pierce on December 20, 2017, 01:46:52 AM
Here is a spider sight inletted into the barrel of my current build. The legs were so thin and so I ended up using Hi-Force solder to hold it down.


(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2FcO4Kum%2FEAB4_C45_B_3034_44_E2_A9_C7_A13649041716.jpg&hash=bd9eb678c9e7240f24792c9b1ed333fa403292ed) (http://ibb.co/krbA0R)

On my RCA 19 copy I engraved a trough, undercut it, put a silver blade in there, and peened it down.  Mostly good.  There’s a little divot at the front. 


(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2Fhhe8n6%2F12_FC02_EB_E437_4_F96_973_B_8858_FF2347_B9.jpg&hash=de88619fc4117791399ff348b09a190a7890c089) (http://ibb.co/j8FQZm)
Title: Re: Front sight blade
Post by: Clark Badgett on December 20, 2017, 02:09:08 AM
Rich, is there any chance that you could show a picture of the tool/graver that you used to engrave the trough in that second picture.
Title: Re: Front sight blade
Post by: Mike Brooks on December 20, 2017, 02:25:53 AM
OK so I know the wrong way to do this,,, so what's the right way?
Talking about installing a blade with no dove tail..
I like that look a lot, cut a small groove in the barrel
and used the pinch method, but is easier said than done
has to be a better way 😊
That's the way I do it.
Title: Re: Front sight blade
Post by: rich pierce on December 20, 2017, 02:50:39 AM
Rich, is there any chance that you could show a picture of the tool/graver that you used to engrave the trough in that second picture.

I use a graver or die sinkers chisel I made from 3/8” diameter O1 tool steel.  Heftier would work too, but that is what I had. Sorry for poor image quality.


(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2FdVp2Em%2FCDD05_D09_2_CC4_47_A5_A87_B_686_E4_EB7671_D.jpg&hash=89e0bb6c79cd37bdafb1d1b478c7619a0d2c7a3c) (http://ibb.co/ha09um)

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2Fip5aZm%2F3280_FEED_F45_A_4_C7_B_983_D_272_BB9_EE4781.jpg&hash=8b22750430450aaa7855ff64c096e28be458c6b3) (http://ibb.co/c2rFZm)
Title: Re: Front sight blade
Post by: Clark Badgett on December 20, 2017, 04:26:02 AM
Thanks Rich, that helps a lot. Looks like I'll be looking for some 01 at work tomorrow. I guess A2 would probably work just as well.
Title: Re: Front sight blade
Post by: rich pierce on December 20, 2017, 05:57:25 AM
So long as you can harden and temper it.  Air hardening steel confuses me. 

I’m guessing I used O1 but it might have been something recycled based on how the shaft looks.  I give it the spark test, see how it hardens in oil, and temper to purplish. See how it works and adjust as needed. A metallurgists nightmare, I am.
Title: Re: Front sight blade
Post by: Clark Badgett on December 21, 2017, 03:45:10 AM
So long as you can harden and temper it.  Air hardening steel confuses me. 

I’m guessing I used O1 but it might have been something recycled based on how the shaft looks.  I give it the spark test, see how it hardens in oil, and temper to purplish. See how it works and adjust as needed. A metallurgists nightmare, I am.

A2 is quite easy to treat, but I do it often enough to make it seem so. I did a little scrounging at work today and found a piece of 1/2" O1, which is surprising since most of what we use is A2. I'll check with the boss and see if it's ok to snag a few inches of it.