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Title: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: Cades Cove Fiddler on January 31, 2018, 10:07:45 PM
... Recently acquired this East Tennessee rifle .... about .38cal., 43"bbl., 60" overall,...all forged iron mounts,...black walnut stock (cut-down to 3/4 length),... markings on bbl too faint to read ... believe from architecture to be Unicoi or Sullivan Co., TN .  .... Will be restored .... Thoughts and opinions desired please ....Regards,... Cades Cove Fiddler .... (LEFT CLICK ON IMAGE WILL ENLARGE) ...
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Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: diamante on January 31, 2018, 11:03:08 PM
Absolutely great find of an East Tennessee classic!
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: somehippy on February 01, 2018, 12:31:03 AM
Gorgeous! I love them lines.
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: Shreckmeister on February 01, 2018, 12:44:15 AM
Nice rifle.  Whatever needs restored isn't apparent in those pictures.  Maybe your thinking of shooting it?
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: Hlbly on February 01, 2018, 12:49:15 AM
Looks like an Ambrose Lawing to me. I would be very cautious about restoration. He made some 3/4 stock rifles late in his career. Somewhere there is a picture of him holding one of his rifles. It is a 3/4 stock.
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: WadePatton on February 01, 2018, 02:41:19 AM
It does look familiar from my studies. I'm curious as to what needs any restoration. Looks fine as seen in pics.

Congrats on snagging a good looking TN original.

Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: mountainad82 on February 01, 2018, 03:07:51 AM
Congrats on the rifle. Was nice talking with you at the sale. I didn’t even run the price up on you  ;D
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: Cades Cove Fiddler on February 01, 2018, 03:22:08 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;)... Thank you, Adam ...really was after this one .... when I saw in person, ... had to have her ...wonder who owned her before ..?? ....  ??? ???....seems that still being in East TN, we would have seen her before ... Not a beautifully preserved flint gun, but great upper East Tennessee rifle, non the less ....... thanx again for the gentleman's agreement to refrain ... !!! ... Regards ,... DGB ...
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: mountainman70 on February 01, 2018, 04:30:03 AM
Seems to me some of the rifles in  Alvin York movie  shootin match showed 3/4 stock guns, and I believe Alvin s lightening rod gun was also.
Great find, Bud. Dave F 8) 8)
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: WElliott on February 01, 2018, 06:04:14 AM
Nice rifle, likely Unicoi area. And I agree, it is likely originally 3/4 stock. 
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: Sequatchie Rifle on February 01, 2018, 07:11:48 AM
Looks an awful lot like a Lawing. I have three of his 3/4 stock rifles. Same filing on the site. All three are original 3/4 stock rifles. Can’t see what needs restoring. Very nice!
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: n stephenson on February 01, 2018, 04:27:17 PM
CCF, Good for you!! I`m glad she made it to a loving home! Nice find!!!     Nate
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: scottmc on February 02, 2018, 02:42:40 AM
Very nice find, Cades!!  I'm  in love with that trigger guard and the file work on the front right.  Interesting location of the cheek piece but beautiful nonetheless.
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: diamante on February 02, 2018, 02:54:04 PM
Could you guys who have these 3/4 stocked rifles post some photos of the forend?
Thanks
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: wildcatter on February 03, 2018, 06:05:52 PM
CCF, great rifle, I ageree with other posts on Ambrose Lawing. I almost jumped in on it online, I've committed to only SC stuff, glad I didn't and you got it and brought it closer to home. You bringing it to the show in April? If so, I look forward to seeing it.

 Matt McLeod
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: Cades Cove Fiddler on February 06, 2018, 02:09:49 AM
 ;) ;)... Steve,... will try to get a few pix of the two 3/4 stocked TENNESSEE rifles I have posted ... maybe by tomorrow, 2/6... will be in another topic in antique collecting .... If you can come to the Cumberland  show this week-end, you can see several in person...... regards,... C C Fiddler
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Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: Stoner creek on February 06, 2018, 02:23:04 AM
;) ;)... Steve,... will try to get a few pix of the two 3/4 stocked TENNESSEE rifles I have posted ... maybe by tomorrow, 2/6... will be in another topic in antique collecting .... If you can come to the Cumberland  show this week-end, you can see several in person...... regards,... C C Fiddler
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Nice. I’m looking forward to seeing this one at Lake Cumberland. I’ll bring along my new Brooks gun for you to see!
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: Cades Cove Fiddler on February 06, 2018, 05:15:17 AM
 ;D ;D ;D... S.C.,.... really want to see your new BROOKS rifle .... pix are great ...she's a beauty ....!!! ...
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: diamante on February 06, 2018, 05:51:17 AM
;) ;)... Steve,... will try to get a few pix of the two 3/4 stocked TENNESSEE rifles I have posted ... maybe by tomorrow, 2/6... will be in another topic in antique collecting .... If you can come to the Cumberland  show this week-end, you can see several in person...... regards,... C C Fiddler
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Thanks. I’m trying to work things out so I can attend. It’s not too bad a drive for me.
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: diamante on February 10, 2018, 02:43:21 AM
;) ;)... Steve,... will try to get a few pix of the two 3/4 stocked TENNESSEE rifles I have posted ... maybe by tomorrow, 2/6... will be in another topic in antique collecting .... If you can come to the Cumberland  show this week-end, you can see several in person...... regards,... C C Fiddler
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Thanks. I’m trying to work things out so I can attend. It’s not too bad a drive for me.
I was at the show today until 1:30. Sorry I missed seeing them.
Title: Re: Unicoi County Tennessee Rifle ...??
Post by: Cades Cove Fiddler on February 12, 2018, 06:45:29 PM
 :( :( :(.... Sorry I missed seeing you there, Steve,.... Didn't  get there until late Friday afternoon.... Opinions were about 50/50 as to stock,... some think original fullstock,... some half...??? ,... anyway all agree UNICOI CO,. TENNESSEE ,.. !!! ... will bring her to Knoxville to show to a couple other collectors who were not at Cumberland ..... Regards, C C Fiddler,.....