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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: will payne on June 22, 2018, 02:43:05 AM

Title: 50 cal smoothbore being built.
Post by: will payne on June 22, 2018, 02:43:05 AM
My dad is building me a 50 cal smoothbore
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Post by: FALout on June 22, 2018, 03:02:17 AM
Are you gonna help him?
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Post by: will payne on June 22, 2018, 03:12:04 AM
I've crowned the barrel.😊
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Post by: Sawfiler on June 22, 2018, 02:57:02 PM
Take some photos and keep us updated on the progress! Do you know any of the other details? Lock type, barrel length, etc?
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Post by: will payne on June 22, 2018, 03:08:21 PM
Length of the barrel is 36 inches. I can't post pictures for some reason my iPad won't let me.
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Post by: will payne on June 22, 2018, 04:45:09 PM
The lock is a left hand early classic flint from L&R.
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Post by: will payne on June 22, 2018, 07:12:48 PM
The barrel is a Colerain 7/8.
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Post by: will payne on June 23, 2018, 12:38:02 AM
I helped my dad put in the barrel pins on 6/22/18.🙂
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Post by: davebozell on June 23, 2018, 03:19:06 AM
Hopefully you are taking many pictures, even if you can't share them with us.  You will cherish them and the gun forever.  A journal would be great as well, to record your thoughts during the build.
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Post by: will payne on June 23, 2018, 03:48:39 AM
Ok thanks for telling me that great idea.
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Post by: hanshi on June 23, 2018, 09:30:26 PM
Hi, Will.  Your dad should be able to take and post photos; he's no worse with technology than I am.  Tell him I said take the pics and post them; it's easy to post on this site.
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Post by: will payne on June 23, 2018, 10:08:55 PM
My dad started to inlet the trigger plate.😊Today
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Post by: Dennis Glazener on June 24, 2018, 05:16:12 AM
Length of the barrel is 36 inches. I can't post pictures for some reason my iPad won't let me.

iPads are included on this tutorial http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=43575.0
Dennis
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Post by: will payne on June 24, 2018, 03:44:09 PM
Thank you  Dennis I will try to post pic this afternoon.
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Post by: will payne on June 24, 2018, 08:47:31 PM
This the lock and I crowned the barrel.
(https://preview.ibb.co/djxvzo/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/eGXTKo)

(https://preview.ibb.co/nh0nC8/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j0xZs8)
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Post by: Craig Wilcox on June 25, 2018, 02:10:51 AM
You did a nice, neat job on that barrel crown.  Obviously you took your time - looks great.


soon you will be building your own long rifle.  All of us had to have a first one, and you are lucky that you are able to help your dad in the shop.
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Post by: will payne on June 26, 2018, 05:22:21 PM
Soon I will be posting more pictures.
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Post by: Mr. Bubbles on June 27, 2018, 10:49:04 PM
It looks like that web is about 1/4".  Pretty thick.  You might want to think about thinning that up by dropping the barrel some, particularly at the muzzle.  Thick webs often result in a gun that looks "heavy".  That will mean you will probably have to re-drill the pin holes, but those plug up easily enough with toothpicks. 

Also, be careful about using a rounded rat-tail file for your lock panel sweeps.  They generally yield a radius that is too severe.  You might think about using  something like a half-round file for them, (particularly in the nose) and adjust the radius from there with scrapers.  Mostly those radiuses are changing dimension all the way around the lock, so that it looks like it sort of grew out of the stock, rather than having an "applied" look.  But again, that varies somewhat based on the various schools of the different builds.  Look at lots of originals within your chosen school.  Lock panel margins are often a difficult thing that many struggle with for a while before they get it right.
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Post by: will payne on June 28, 2018, 12:51:54 AM
Thank you for the advice Mr. Bubbles.
It looks like that web is about 1/4".  Pretty thick.  You might want to think about thinning that up by dropping the barrel some, particularly at the muzzle.  Thick webs often result in a gun that looks "heavy".  That will mean you will probably have to re-drill the pin holes, but those plug up easily enough with toothpicks. 

Also, be careful about using a rounded rat-tail file for your lock panel sweeps.  They generally yield a radius that is too severe.  You might think about using  something like a half-round file for them, (particularly in the nose) and adjust the radius from there with scrapers.  Mostly those radiuses are changing dimension all the way around the lock, so that it looks like it sort of grew out of the stock, rather than having an "applied" look.  But again, that varies somewhat based on the various schools of the different builds.  Look at lots of originals within your chosen school.  Lock panel margins are often a difficult thing that many struggle with for a while before they get it right.
thank you for the advice Mr. Bubbles
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Post by: will payne on June 24, 2019, 04:56:59 AM
My dad has removed quite a bit of wood from the stock underneath the Barrel. But he won't have a lot to  time to build it because he has been working 60 hours a week :-\
Will
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Post by: will payne on September 17, 2019, 12:21:46 AM
My dad has gotten really fare with my rifle he told me he’d probably be done with it next month.