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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: Scota4570 on June 25, 2018, 01:01:09 AM
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This gave me huge respect for you carvers and engravers. There is a lot to learn and it will keep me busy for some time to come.
Thanks for the help everyone.
Scot
(https://preview.ibb.co/jhY828/DSCN0377.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nf1HvT)
(https://preview.ibb.co/hcTVFT/DSCN0378.jpg) (https://ibb.co/e39Fh8)
(https://preview.ibb.co/hPE4aT/DSCN0379.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gsdVFT)
(https://preview.ibb.co/gGQcvT/DSCN0381.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mYm6po)
(https://preview.ibb.co/eS5uaT/DSCN0375.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nQUbpo)
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Scota, Very nice and appropriate carving. I think it gives your gun a definite Lancaster feel to it and compliments that pretty piece of wood. I really like the fleur-de-lis you did with the tang as well. Obviously you have some drawing & carving skills so I am going to assume you are already thinking about the next one.. TommyG
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Very nice !
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Everything to be proud of there Scott,
Very nice work!!
Al J.
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Now Scott after looking at your gun....! You have caused me problems. You did such a nice job that I'm going to have to order one of these kits !
Thanks for showing. Good !looking rifle !
Oldtravler
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You've done quite well with your gun Scot, I like it. What's next?
dave
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You've done quite well with your gun Scot, I like it. What's next?
dave
I always keep a project on the bench. This one was for a friend. I'll do another Kibler Colonial for me, but with a domed patch box, more engraving, and fancier wood for my keeper. Maybe something from Chambers someday.
This one was a test bed for developing new engraving and carving skills. I deliberately kept it simple. I learned about my skills gaps here, it was humbling. Engraving-figure out bright cuts. Carvings-even up the curves and make sure every thing is perfectly smooth before finishing.
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You’ve done a fine job with this kit. Nice carving, nice finish. Thanks for letting us enjoy it. I’m sure your friend will be proud of it.
Bob
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I like it. I'm getting eager to get going on my colonial. What grade stock wood is that, if I may ask? And what process did you use for the steel finishing?
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That's a great looking rifle, Scota & will be a joy to shoot!
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Definitely a rifle to be proud of.
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"And what process did you use for the steel finishing?"
Draw file, 120 grit paper, burgandy sctochbrite, then ... gasp!, Brownells Oxpho ....cold blue Applied with steel wool and kitchen scotchbrite.
I know, not traditional for this type of thing. However, it comes out dark and even and it is pretty durable. I told my friend if the finish does not hold up, or he just does not like it, I'll brown the barrel for free. In the low humidity out here traditional browning is not easy to do right. I normally end up using BC hot brown. It is challenging to make it come out even.
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Well done Scot,
That is a very handsome rifle.
dave
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Nothing wrong with that. I think your carving came out fine.
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Nice Job! It has a very credible feel. I agree, your carving came out nice. Thanks for sharing!
Jim
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"And what process did you use for the steel finishing?"
Draw file, 120 grit paper, burgandy sctochbrite, then ... gasp!, Brownells Oxpho ....cold blue Applied with steel wool and kitchen scotchbrite.
I know, not traditional for this type of thing. However, it comes out dark and even and it is pretty durable. I told my friend if the finish does not hold up, or he just does not like it, I'll brown the barrel for free. In the low humidity out here traditional browning is not easy to do right. I normally end up using BC hot brown. It is challenging to make it come out even.
I thought it might be oxpho blue :) I used it recently when I refinished my GPR. Maybe not traditional but it is easy to use and done right it looks good too.
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Iktomi,
If you're going to do quality browning, you have to control humidity.
Build a sweat box. It's cheap, easy, and then you can control the results.
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Iktomi,
If you're going to do quality browning, you have to control humidity.
Build a sweat box. It's cheap, easy, and then you can control the results.
I used to have one. Space is a problem. There was fine line between working properly and causing condensation. IF I were to set up a real shop at a new location I would include one.
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I use a piece of pipe. Happen to have a galvanized steel post for chain link fence that is about 3” in diameter. Put a cap on it, put a wet rag in the bottom, and suspend the barrel in it and cover with a damp rag. Would use pvc if I didn’t happen to have this one. Low tech, uses little space, works fine.
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Iktomi,
If you're going to do quality browning, you have to control humidity.
Build a sweat box. It's cheap, easy, and then you can control the results.
Yup, in my neck of the woods summers are hot and very dry, RH in single digits often, hard to get a rust formula to take without raising the RH.
I'm thinking hard about rust bluing my Colonial when the time comes, been experimenting with a couple of homemade rust formulas but I think LMF with a sweat box might be a better option. As long as I can get the humidity up, I've found the LMF brown to be almost fool proof.
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I use a piece of pipe. Happen to have a galvanized steel post for chain link fence that is about 3” in diameter. Put a cap on it, put a wet rag in the bottom, and suspend the barrel in it and cover with a damp rag. Would use pvc if I didn’t happen to have this one. Low tech, uses little space, works fine.
That's a simple and cheap and easy setup. I will have to dig around my junk pile and see what I can come up with.
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My best result was to hang the barrel over tepid water in a bath tub, in a bathroom. I made a wall mounted box with a fan, hotplate, light bulbs for heat and vent controls, that was the one that did not work great.
For a time I was using express blue and browns. Those contained mercuric chloride. I strongly suggest that others avoid such formulas. MC is a powerful neurotoxin.
Someday I'll try the pipe idea. To get blue the barrel must be boiled in distilled water. For my present level of commitment slow rust blue is a lot of work.
If you prepare the steel properly cold blue is pretty nice looking. Over polishing is a hindrance. Applied over a sand or bead blasted surface the finish is even and dark. A fine bead blast looks really good, and is very close to slow rust in appearance.
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Scot, Nicely done! Nate
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Well done!
Keep it up.
Jeff
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You did an awesome job bluing the barrel. Anything special going on there?
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Nice build👍🏻🏆