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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: Robert Wolfe on March 12, 2020, 12:50:10 AM

Title: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Robert Wolfe on March 12, 2020, 12:50:10 AM
I would appreciate constructive criticism on this one. It is my 9th, though 2cnd from a plank. I started it at the Southern Ohio Artisans Workshop gunmakers class in Jan 2019 with Ian Pratt and Ken Gahagan. Can’t say enough good things about the class and how much help those guys are.

It is based on/inspired by one owned by Colonial Williamsburg that is shown in “Of Sorts for Provincials” but is not a copy. There are also several composite pieces with similar profiles shown in Grinslade’s “Flintlock Fowlers.” It perhaps represents a mid-1700’s fowler stocked up from recycled parts.

It has a 28 gauge Rayl barrel and a Rifle Shoppe Queen Anne dog lock that I put together. That lock is big, and it is a beast. I made the trigger, trigger guard, side plate, and thimbles. There is no entry thimble, trigger plate, or butt plate.  I used ferric nitrate crystals for stain and Chamber's oil finish. Mike Brooks was kind enough to engrave the side plate for me. Dave Rase did the barrel inlet and provided the wood.

It is “aged” which I know is not everyone’s cup of tea. My goal was that from six feet away it would look like an antique while hanging on my wall. Haven’t gotten to shoot it yet but the lock sparks just fine.



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(https://i.ibb.co/KGyB8hC/8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SxvHZyq)

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Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Mike Brooks on March 12, 2020, 02:07:41 AM
Nice, my kind of gun, like the color. I like your upper and lower forestock moldings. Your scoop at the comb/wrist area is nice too. I have used that lock before, it's dependable, but a bit slow! That big cock has quite a distance to travel, very similar to shooting a brown bess lock time wise.  I'll have to find another of those locks to  build a gun around, it's interesting to shoot a gun with such an archaic lock.
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: guido on March 12, 2020, 02:16:05 AM
Love it Robert! Just love that type of composite fowler. When I saw the wood, new it was beautiful. Also saw all the work it took to make that lock fit. Great Job!!





















saw
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: smart dog on March 12, 2020, 02:23:42 AM
Hi Robert,
Wow! That is a beauty. I think you got everything just right.  I love the double bead along the barrel channel.  Well done!

dave
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Marcruger on March 12, 2020, 02:31:14 AM
Oh yeeaah.  Now that's a gun!   That dog lock is way cool.  I love those finishes.  Second from a plank?  I'd say you are on the right track. It reminds me of some of Mr. Hubbard's and Mr. Pratt's work.  Somebody is going to enjoy owning that one.  God Bless,  Marc
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: bob in the woods on March 12, 2020, 02:35:01 AM
That is fabulous !   Just my type of gun .  I just love everything about it.  What does she weigh ?
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Bob McBride on March 12, 2020, 02:39:04 AM
Absolutely my kind of gun. Super Duper.
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Ian Pratt on March 12, 2020, 02:55:20 AM
Well Robert your persistence has definitely paid off! Congratulations on another very cool gun. I can tell you enjoy doing this type of finish, lots of extra work there and you have done it well.
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Robert Wolfe on March 12, 2020, 03:02:28 AM
Thanks all, appreciate the comments. In between all the hair pulling it was a lot of fun. Bob - it weighs about 6 pounds.
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: BOB HILL on March 12, 2020, 06:46:40 AM
Nothing not to like on this one.
Bob
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: rennikselum on March 12, 2020, 12:43:55 PM
Robert,
Fantastic work! Love everything about it.

Jeff
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: KC on March 12, 2020, 03:13:05 PM
I like that a lot. Very well done, I really like the color of the stock and your aging of the gun. I'm sure it looks great on your wall but I'd be interested to hear how it shoots when you do take it out.
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Jeff64 on March 12, 2020, 09:14:56 PM
Very nice!  Craftsmanship, finish, aging, it's the total package.  Curious about your experience building the lock.  I started a post about a week ago about building a lock from a kit and got some pretty good responses.  I'm looking at building a TRS Dutch export lock, similar to what you've done in that it's big.  Any advice?  What power tools did you use, drill press, metal lathe? Interested in anything you'd be willing to share.
R/Jeff
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Robert Wolfe on March 12, 2020, 10:03:24 PM
Jeff64 - I had no experience building a lock. The only power tool I used was a drill press. It was a challenge for sure and I about quit a couple of times. I had to get help hardening and tempering parts. I struggled with the halfcock notch not holding and had to get advice on that. It helped me a lot to have a finished lock in front of me. Looking back, I definitely underestimated the challenge for me. Will I do it again - maybe, probably. My lock is functional but it is certainly not up the the standards of a Chamber's lock, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: rich pierce on March 12, 2020, 10:16:14 PM
Super cool gun. Nicer than the original ever was!  Looks right.
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on March 13, 2020, 12:48:35 AM
I like the gun!!  Congrats on a fine build.
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: B.Barker on March 13, 2020, 02:00:56 AM
Nice looking fowling piece and the finish looks great. What gauge barrel did you use on it?
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Robert Wolfe on March 13, 2020, 03:00:45 AM
Brian, it's a 28 gauge (56 cal) barrel. Really too small for that lock. That caused me lots of headaches with ramrod interference. The mainspring is a full 9/16 inch wide so a bigger breach would have helped me out. But, it was worth it in the end.
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Clark Badgett on March 13, 2020, 04:10:03 AM
Love those French inspired lines. Very nice.
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Robert Wolfe on March 13, 2020, 10:54:48 PM
Clark, it was those French lines that drew me to it. Something sexy about them for sure.
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: oldtravler61 on March 14, 2020, 12:41:50 AM
   Robert very well done...an I sure like it a lot...BUT  when several of the Top buiders tell you it WELL done...it's well done indeed..that to me is a superb compliment.....Oldtravler
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: DBoone on March 14, 2020, 04:08:24 PM
I love it, Robert!  Excellent job!  I can see that one traveling across the early frontier......
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: thecapgunkid on March 14, 2020, 04:41:50 PM
not hurting for quality.  Have you shot it yet?  Some of the replies showed up blank so I didn't know...
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Eric Kettenburg on March 14, 2020, 04:50:32 PM
Robert that is really a spectacular piece of work!  I'm the kind of person that loves to pick things apart but I honestly can't find anything to pick at other than my nose.  I think you really nailed it.

I love that big honking lock!  I've used a few of them over the years and have never been disappointed.

The overall stock color and shading is just beautiful, too.
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Marcruger on March 14, 2020, 05:33:56 PM
Robert, I think it is time for you to do a tutorial on stock and metal aging.  Great finishes.  I can only begin to imagine the time you put into that.  God Bless,   Marc
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: WKevinD on March 14, 2020, 09:58:18 PM
Stunning. I saved the pictures, what happened to #3 & 4?

Kevin
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Algae on March 14, 2020, 10:35:28 PM
Very very nice!! You've got a right to be proud!

Al J.
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: k gahagan on March 15, 2020, 02:03:47 AM
Robert, Nice to see it finished. Came out great, good job!
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Robert Wolfe on March 17, 2020, 05:59:58 PM
Thanks for the complements all. Sometimes I get a little discouraged when I see all the incredible work posted on this site. But, in the end  as long as the next one is better than the last one I'm happy.
Title: Re: Composite Fowling Gun
Post by: Marcruger on March 17, 2020, 07:59:13 PM
"Sometimes I get a little discouraged when I see all the incredible work posted on this site. "

Your gun is proof that architecture and finish carry the day.