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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: sdilts on April 05, 2020, 03:01:27 AM

Title: Need direction
Post by: sdilts on April 05, 2020, 03:01:27 AM

A guy brought me a 38" octagon to round barrel and Rice's new Nock lock. He said to make him something out of them that would be an appropriate use of the parts. Trouble is, I don't have a clue as to what would be appropriate. I don't want to just slap a bunch of parts together and call it a rifle. In the books I have, I haven't been able to find anything showing the Nock lock that I could go by. Even searching the internet hasn't helped. So, I'm scratching my head. I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction.

Title: Re: Need direction
Post by: rich pierce on April 05, 2020, 05:55:19 AM

Late English sporting rifle such as this one.
https://www.collectorsfirearms.com/english-flintlock-sporting-rifle-by-perry-al2817/

And a real Nock http://www.sitemason.com/page/iiIFfa

Title: Re: Need direction
Post by: Daryl on April 05, 2020, 06:21:27 AM

Yes - good idea, Rich.  That kinda looks like the centre rifle here, except for the length of the checkering on the wrist
and of course, the two barrel keys.

(https://i.ibb.co/5crgLkF/halfstockandfullstock-Engoish-Rifles.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Svt4Bcr)

Title: Re: Need direction
Post by: sdilts on April 06, 2020, 03:00:10 AM

Thanks guys. I really appreciate your input. I talked to the guy and he would really like a fullstock. Do you think #3 in Daryl's post would work?

Steve

Title: Re: Need direction
Post by: Daryl on April 06, 2020, 03:37:50 AM

Absolutely. It would be very similar to Chamber's mid 1700's Englishman Gentleman's rifle.
Check it out, second from the bottom of this page.
https://www.flintlocks.com/new/rifles.html#RK-12
 

Title: Re: Need direction
Post by: Mike Brooks on April 06, 2020, 02:40:19 PM

Look at the Sheetz and Lauck guns and all the guns of WV and VA after 1800

Title: Re: Need direction
Post by: sdilts on April 06, 2020, 04:24:10 PM

This sure gives me something to work with. Living on the border of VA/WV, I think I'll investigate those a bit.

Title: Re: Need direction
Post by: Pukka Bundook on April 06, 2020, 05:33:27 PM

The Chamber's style is a bit too early for a Nock lock, but still a nice rifle.

Title: Re: Need direction
Post by: Justin Urbantas on April 06, 2020, 06:08:04 PM

I think a shotgun like this would be nice.
http://www.sitemason.com/page/ceZ2q4

Title: Re: Need direction
Post by: Not English on April 07, 2020, 04:34:16 AM

I'd do an English half stock with a soldered rib. Maybe a fowler trigger guard, but a simple trigger guard  with a simple spur coming of the trigger guard behind the bow. A pewter fore stock cap would be in order. This would put it the first half of the 19th century maybe the last quarter of the 18th century. Think along the slim and trim lines. At this point in time the English were leading the development of the flintlock.

Dave