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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: Mike Lyons on September 07, 2020, 06:56:23 AM

Title: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Lyons on September 07, 2020, 06:56:23 AM
I’m on the wire inlay portion of this build.  I strive for this part of the build and when I get there,  it wears me out.  This has by far been my most intense build and the most fun.  It  has a pattern conglomeration of two different Kuntz guns and the H Rupp decorations.  I’m really hoping to get a good shooting deer rifle this time.


(https://i.ibb.co/0YLdRh8/B801-D025-6689-4-BC1-B983-E1415-D40688-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZcrkpWt)

(https://i.ibb.co/3v9htcn/D39-E3267-E653-4-E0-A-9240-D66-AFC5-A01-A9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Qk3msM4)

(https://i.ibb.co/9wdj8QG/D25520-F4-2-E32-4443-B18-C-784-D60-A45-BAA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cbsdg4x)

(https://i.ibb.co/gScXkkH/318766-D7-1-DE2-4-B65-9256-44-D94-DF66-E4-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CbSXRRN)

(https://i.ibb.co/St4GhW9/916-B051-D-09-BD-4-EF3-BEB2-9-E6160845-C2-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fkzLhBP)

(https://i.ibb.co/2k8WkhZ/D7-CA7-F9-A-9-A50-41-D4-87-CD-0-F0-CC9-D8-E063.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yQhdQP4)

(https://i.ibb.co/VWMy4Jp/8-E202-EF7-44-CD-4-AF1-AE0-A-32-F9-AFDB0-D30.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pv4DFbr)
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: yip on September 07, 2020, 01:50:52 PM
    very nice
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: BOB HILL on September 07, 2020, 02:19:42 PM
This sure looks great, Mike. You’re a very talented young man. Keep up the great work.
Bob
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: J. Talbert on September 07, 2020, 03:40:36 PM
Hey Mike
That’s looking great. Ott’a be done in plenty of time for deer season.  :D
Jeff
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Brooks on September 07, 2020, 04:21:48 PM
How did that box work out?  Everything is looking good.
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Cory Joe Stewart on September 07, 2020, 04:56:12 PM
Fantastic!

Cory Joe
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Lyons on September 07, 2020, 05:02:55 PM
How did that box work out?  Everything is looking good.


It worked out great.  I cut the hinge soldered it up and drilled the hole.  It wasn’t bad at all.  I really like the weight and feel of it better than the flimsy ones on the market. 
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: smallpatch on September 07, 2020, 05:18:48 PM
 I give up, did you and Mr Brooks come up with a domed lid box? Please explain the mystery!
Any ways, nice job so far.  Looks to be a nice piece of wood as well.
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Brooks on September 07, 2020, 08:06:04 PM
I give up, did you and Mr Brooks come up with a domed lid box? Please explain the mystery!
Any ways, nice job so far.  Looks to be a nice piece of wood as well.
I have them for sale. It's cast from an EK pattern.
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Daryl on September 07, 2020, 08:22:22 PM
Looking good, Mike.
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Lyons on September 07, 2020, 09:39:27 PM
I give up, did you and Mr Brooks come up with a domed lid box? Please explain the mystery!
Any ways, nice job so far.  Looks to be a nice piece of wood as well.

It came from Mike Brooks’s collection of for sale furniture.  Anyone looking for brass,  I’d put him on top of the list.  Everything bends, drills, files great and gets a beautiful look quickly.  It’s the best quality stuff I’ve dealt with.  I don’t know enough about metallurgy to know what the difference is but it’s good stuff.
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: oldtravler61 on September 07, 2020, 11:49:43 PM
  Mike sure like the way it's looking...Nice Work...  Oldtravler
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: B.Barker on September 08, 2020, 04:45:36 AM
Mike it's looking good. I've tried wire inlay a couple of times but and it never turned out well. Looks like you have a pretty good handle on it.
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Lyons on September 08, 2020, 05:23:37 AM
Mike it's looking good. I've tried wire inlay a couple of times but and it never turned out well. Looks like you have a pretty good handle on it.

Thanks Brian. I tapered every piece but you can’t tell in the pictures.  I cut up a hacksaw blade and made little 1 1/2” stabbing tools this time.  The stabbing part is about a 1/16” or so.  Some curved and some strait. I think it was Taylor who had a post on making them.  For me,  brass is a lot easier than silver.  The silver rolled and smashed and was a big pain in the neck.
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: P.C.Child on September 08, 2020, 06:09:17 AM
Very Nice! Looks Great!
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Greg Pennell on September 08, 2020, 02:38:05 PM
Mike, that’s gonna be another beauty!  I can’t wait to see it in person the next time we get together at Boonesborough. Maybe we should do that twice a year? Hint, Hint...

Greg
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: smallpatch on September 08, 2020, 05:00:57 PM
Mikes,
I recognize that one now.  Had one before, but traded it off. Should have kept it.
Mr Brooks,
You’ve added quite a line of castings. I couldn’t find pricing however.
Do you have a price list somewhere?
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Lyons on September 10, 2020, 05:49:58 AM
On to drawing.  This rifle has a ton of it.   I’ve been erasing and drawing most of the evening and still I’m not satisfied.  I think Herman doodled a little on this gun.  There’s several lines I’ve left out. 
(https://i.ibb.co/yRvWW9P/A51-B99-E9-E61-C-489-F-AE45-49-B5-C71-D2637.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GJYcc6p)

(https://i.ibb.co/8rK3Zj3/E76100-C5-9198-49-FB-BA75-47-B5-CDEA81-BE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Mc2T0RT)
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: 577SXS on September 10, 2020, 03:36:40 PM
That's going to be a lot of carving. Look forward to seeing the finished result.
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Brooks on September 10, 2020, 03:40:39 PM
Mikes,
I recognize that one now.  Had one before, but traded it off. Should have kept it.
Mr Brooks,
You’ve added quite a line of castings. I couldn’t find pricing however.
Do you have a price list somewhere?
I have even more stuff now, just got a big batch back from the foundry. It will all be posted with prices in the next couple days. TG's $35. BP's $30. Boxes $60-$75. Sdeplates $15.
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: smallpatch on September 10, 2020, 04:45:14 PM
Thanks Mike!
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: t.caster on September 10, 2020, 05:32:24 PM
That's going to be a beauty! Very nice work so far!
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Lyons on September 10, 2020, 08:51:08 PM
It needs a lot of cleaning up before cutting.  The acanthus leaves, scrolls and volutes are rough but I’ll get them better.
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Daryl on September 11, 2020, 02:06:51 AM
Looking really busy, Mike. If that's what you want, have at it.
Should be quite the engraving indeed.
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Brooks on September 11, 2020, 03:56:13 PM
Should be interesting....are you going to cut that with a parting tool?
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Lyons on September 11, 2020, 04:36:29 PM
Should be interesting....are you going to cut that with a parting tool?

I plan on using the parting tool for the majority of it and gouges for depth and chip carving.  Some of the little wiry lines might get stabbed in.  What do you think?   I’m wide open on suggestions.  Here’s some more recent pics after staring at it and making corrections.

(https://i.ibb.co/rxPyHhV/BEC5-C555-3-B77-4800-AE33-A3-FC78156-CBF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m9sz4K3)

(https://i.ibb.co/MRgtXcx/59-F22513-E0-E7-4-EB4-9-CD6-F7-CEEF15-A82-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JzcGhvw)

(https://i.ibb.co/QfM0Drz/9-F502-C82-717-F-4525-B4-E0-06-FC221-CFF6-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/t4DRL8k)
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Brooks on September 11, 2020, 05:59:18 PM
Going to be a combo of incised and relief?
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Lyons on September 11, 2020, 06:30:25 PM
Going to be a combo of incised and relief?

The original appears to have some/very little relief around the comb.  Several spots have depth added but I don’t think it’s enough to consider it relief.  It’s not pushed up past the incised line. “Hope that makes sense.” I can’t tell if it’s been molded inside the incise lines or it’s 200 years of age that wore off the finish and knocked down the angles.  I may try to round some spots on the volutes with a scraper.  I’m still staring at it. This piece of wood is hard enough to do anything.
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on September 11, 2020, 08:37:28 PM
Around that wrist inlay, be careful not to go too deep if you do raised carving there.  You'll isolate that inlay and it'll look odd.  Off to a great start.
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Lyons on September 11, 2020, 10:13:51 PM
Thanks Taylor.  After using the parting tool, I doubt I relief carve any of it. I’ll try to cut some depth but it’s looking like I don’t need to have it stand out anymore than it is.
(https://i.ibb.co/N2HBqXY/3-D854-BA0-7232-460-A-A089-A547704645-CF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7t6mDHy)

(https://i.ibb.co/2SCPTPp/4-CCD4810-0-F0-A-4346-A4-CC-670-CE3-F7-FEF6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tzvc9c1)

(https://i.ibb.co/yFvXkt8/C044-C85-A-DE39-4-BFD-BF11-418780472-C8-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Zz4Vg5h)
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Brooks on September 12, 2020, 01:32:40 AM
You're getting pretty good with that parting tool!
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Lyons on September 12, 2020, 01:45:25 AM
You're getting pretty good with that parting tool!

I study your guns. I may not know much but I’m a quick learner. Ha
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: smallpatch on September 12, 2020, 01:48:45 AM
Cmon Mike, don’t wimp  out now.  You KNOW relieving that is the right thing!
Gonna be a beauty!
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Lyons on September 13, 2020, 02:12:51 AM
That star was intimidating.  Just noticed that I need to cut the cheek piece lines.  Looks like it will be ready for deer season.  ;D ;

(https://i.ibb.co/j8j73Yn/1-BDDA21-F-1-E57-44-EA-8-B66-BF88-CA7-F6-F34.jpg) (https://ibb.co/104HRNF)
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: flinchrocket on September 13, 2020, 02:19:30 AM
That looks really good.
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Stoner creek on September 13, 2020, 02:38:10 AM
Woweee Kazoweee
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: J. Talbert on September 13, 2020, 03:38:26 AM
You're getting pretty good with that parting tool!
Have to agree with that!

Jeff
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: BOB HILL on September 21, 2020, 05:46:06 PM
Yes, great job with parting tool and I agree you certainly are a quick learner.
No
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: rich pierce on September 21, 2020, 05:49:25 PM
I don’t want to do one of those that curls up over the comb. Nice job.
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Mike Lyons on September 22, 2020, 12:33:51 AM
Here’s the latest progress.  I have the ramrod and touch hole liner to install yet.  Hopefully I can sight it in this weekend.
(https://i.ibb.co/7Yd3Kjk/E40-EB80-D-3-FA1-404-F-A341-C6-DE160-C8-F1-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/smdTqbW)

(https://i.ibb.co/cbC9p3v/B7-D3-A170-4313-49-F4-B289-6-CDDA5527059.jpg) (https://ibb.co/28srLh6)

(https://i.ibb.co/YhqGkSF/97627569-3-F19-45-C9-8-BCA-04916-E0-B357-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tDW5s6T)

(https://i.ibb.co/6vDxZxn/1-F57-E0-B7-6-E6-B-4-EA2-959-D-513-F2-A1-EC059.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s5sGPGm)

(https://i.ibb.co/sRcQxcY/CB78-E22-B-D799-460-C-9-C99-FDC52-BCF4-B01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F3cJZcT)

(https://i.ibb.co/Y3cYkCL/92-E2-FBB1-665-F-4715-B930-AF82226-BD320.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MscWVvC)

(https://i.ibb.co/JzhvKXx/9-DAE009-E-5-ED2-4-BE4-86-CB-C3-DA758-E9414.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nDW7bh3)
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Stoner creek on September 22, 2020, 12:53:18 AM
You know I like it!
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: J. Talbert on September 22, 2020, 01:55:03 AM
Fine job Mike.
Very neatly done.

Jeff
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Greg Pennell on September 22, 2020, 02:21:44 AM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: oldtravler61 on September 22, 2020, 03:20:43 AM
  Geee...Willickers...that is a beautiful..firearm...knocked it out of the park ..Mike...Really..you did a great job...!!!
  Oldtravler
Title: Re: Rifle build progress
Post by: Joey R on September 22, 2020, 03:33:57 AM
Yep,that’s a dandy!