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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: bp on December 27, 2020, 10:32:09 PM

Title: English lock thread missing
Post by: bp on December 27, 2020, 10:32:09 PM
I was going to pose a question on the English locks on Colonial rifle thread but it seems to have dissappeared.
The question was regarding atypical English styled locks with detached pans such as on the woodsrunner rifle. Why the aberation in construction or were they actually made on the continent or here?

Title: Re: English lock thread missing
Post by: blienemann on December 28, 2020, 12:25:19 AM
BP, when I posted the thread on German locks on American rifles, the locks are mostly as made, without work or reconversion.  This was for information, with little critique.

I then naively posted a few examples of British style locks on American rifles, but I included several locks that had been reconverted.  Rich expressed caution, and I quickly realized that I did not want to encourage critique of lock work or the appropriateness of any such locks on some very valuable rifles in private collections and museums!  This might not set well with owners and their gunsmiths, who have been very generous in sharing their arms with us.  I should have been more thoughtful before posting, and I removed the topic.  I apologize to those who posted, as removing the topic removed your comments as well.

Hopefully our knowledgeable members will respond to your particular question.  Dave aka Smart Dog, James Rogers, Pukka Bundook, Feltwad and others have studied British locks in particular, and perhaps they will address this topic, without the concern I felt.  Thanks and respectfully, Bob 
Title: Re: English lock thread missing
Post by: P.W.Berkuta on December 28, 2020, 10:11:07 PM
Very nice reply blienemann and thanks for the information :)
Title: Re: English lock thread missing
Post by: smart dog on December 28, 2020, 11:59:18 PM
Hi BP,
I think it would be hard to deduce much of anything from the lock on the Woodsrunner rifle because it has been so diddled with.  I think the detached pan was a reconversion to flint because it is ill fitting very unlike English locks of that style.  Note the hole for the mainspring under the pan is filled with metal but the mainspring has no screw in it.  The lock has been "retrofitted" with parts.

dave