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Title: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on March 24, 2021, 01:19:29 AM

Hey guys, I just logged in today and I'm going to post some pics of the progress as I assemble a kit that I just got last week.
As long as the mods will let me as this kit is to build a bp gun that is neither American or a long rifle.
I ordered the 1733 French Dragoon kit from Muzzleloader Building Supply.
I've begun sorting the parts and cleaning up the castings. I started to inlet the barrel but I haven't finished yet.
I'm going to ask some dumb questions probably.
My first question is this: Do I need to move the barrel back any more than this? (see pic)
This is where my breech plug is currently inlet. The lock has not been fit yet. I haven't done anything with the lock yet. This is just sticking it in the hole provided by MBS.
The stock came with some preliminary routing and inletting done for me. I understand that it's not too uncommon to have to push the barrel back a little more.
The breech plug will go back into the barrel for inletting. I just wanted to see how it lined up and if I could get it out.
I ordered a book and some other stuff that hasn't showed up yet so I'm going to ask you guys in the mean time.  ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/197qLwq/IMG-20210323-170909598.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9qcTNCT)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on March 24, 2021, 01:44:00 AM

I will be putting a touch hole liner in the barrel.  :)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: gunmaker on March 24, 2021, 01:55:32 AM

A number of books go into detail about the touch hole to pan layout. With a hole liner 1/4" I go fat 3/16" ahead a plug face. 
 If that stock is inlet for lock, adjust Bbl. to match 3/16" dim. give or take you can't move the lock.  Line the hole up with center of pan.
 And go to town.  I'm really interested in this build as I've got a lot of parts from MBS over years, never seen a pistol tho.    old dog

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on March 24, 2021, 02:34:32 AM

Yeah, I have "The Art of The Pennsylvania Long Rifle"  on the way. I will be reading thoroughly.  ;D

In the pic the breech plug is pushed back to it's current inlet.
The lock is pushed in as far as it will go until I inlet the hole some more.
I am also waiting on a spring clamp so I don't want to get to far ahead of myself.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: oldtravler61 on March 24, 2021, 03:40:06 AM

Two things you can do. First check out Mike Brooks tutorial on here. Yes he's building a rifle but it is all relative information. Second look up Josh Wrightsman
on U tube. He goes into good detail on breech plug details.
Hope it helps.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: Eric Krewson on March 24, 2021, 04:13:39 PM

You have to fit the breechplug to the barrel first, then inlet the barrel and breechplug together and see where pan lines up with the installed barrel. I doesn't look like the barrel needs to go back but it might need to go deeper, you want the liner on the center line on the barrel side flat at the sunset position on the pan and centered in the pan. You can't determine this with the barrel out.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on March 24, 2021, 08:14:02 PM

Quote from: Eric Krewson on March 24, 2021, 04:13:39 PM

You have to fit the breechplug to the barrel first, then inlet the barrel and breechplug together and see where pan lines up with the installed barrel. I doesn't look like the barrel needs to go back but it might need to go deeper, you want the liner on the center line on the barrel side flat at the sunset position on the pan and centered in the pan. You can't determine this with the barrel out.

Yeah, as I said above I just pulled the plug to measure some things.
That's why I'm asking this question because where it sits right now the plug sits into the pan by 1/3rd or a 1/4th of it's width.
The touch hole liner is about 3/16th" in diameter.
How far into the pan should the plug threads come?

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: flinchrocket on March 24, 2021, 08:30:42 PM

Punch mark the barrel where you intend to locate the liner. Inlet the lock and then line up the barrel with the lock. Install the breech plug and finish inletting the barrel. The sequence for installing parts of a pistol are opposite a rifle.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on March 24, 2021, 09:21:44 PM

Quote from: flinchrocket on March 24, 2021, 08:30:42 PM

Punch mark the barrel where you intend to locate the liner. Inlet the lock and then line up the barrel with the lock. Install the breech plug and finish inletting the barrel. The sequence for installing parts of a pistol are opposite a rifle.

Are you saying to mark the barrel just past the plug threads in the center of the flat, far enough to just clear the liner then inlet the barrel and lock to meet up at that mark?

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: flinchrocket on March 24, 2021, 09:30:35 PM

You will have to drill and tap the barrel for the touch hole liner. The punch mark will be the center and the same location as the vent hole when your finished. Where ever you want that to be.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on March 24, 2021, 09:31:38 PM

Quote from: flinchrocket on March 24, 2021, 09:30:35 PM

You will have to drill and tap the barrel for the touch hole liner. The punch mark will be the center and the same location as the vent hole when your finished. Where ever you want that to be.

I know that.
Are you saying to do it first before inletting the barrel and lock?

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: flinchrocket on March 24, 2021, 09:45:07 PM

You can inlet your lock, then use the punch mark to inlet the barrel so the touch hole will be where you want it. If you don't know where to put the liner, just make sure the hole is close to the middle of the side flat and far enough forward so the threads aren't in the breech face. 3/16 ahead of the face will give you 1/16 clearance with a 1/4" liner after its installed. If you want more just move it forward more. Hope that cleared up my point.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on March 24, 2021, 10:01:33 PM

Yeah, we're on the same page.
Thanks  8)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: flinchrocket on March 24, 2021, 10:10:05 PM

If I use a small punch mark and things don't end up like I planned after the inletting is done I can move a punch mark if I want to move the touchhole.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on March 24, 2021, 10:21:35 PM

I was trying to clarify because all the info I have read up to this point said to mark and drill the touch hole last.
Obviously I'm not going to drill it right now but if I just mark it I can always move it when I'm ready to drill.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: flinchrocket on March 24, 2021, 11:48:42 PM

After you have some experience with inletting it will be less of an issue. Having a reference point on the outside of the barrel is a great benefit because you can see which way and how much you need to move.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on March 25, 2021, 02:29:10 PM

Thanks for sticking with me there.
I appreciate the advice.  8)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: flinchrocket on March 25, 2021, 06:35:08 PM

No problem. :)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on March 28, 2021, 02:00:12 AM

This is where I'm sitting right now.
Any thoughts?
(https://i.ibb.co/t2cyjdD/IMG-20210326-091841108.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jwG70pD)

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Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: P.Bigham on March 28, 2021, 02:14:30 AM

Perfect drill out the touchhole to a no 51 drill bit and you’ll have excellent ignition. 

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on March 28, 2021, 02:24:40 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/QmRsbnn/IMG-20210326-091920017.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ggpsjww)

(https://i.ibb.co/M54v6MM/IMG-20210326-093252751-HDR.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3Yq3zBB)

(https://i.ibb.co/fdG7w3j/IMG-20210326-092125170.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VYp84Ff)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: Pete G. on March 28, 2021, 09:10:28 PM

Cut back on using the inetting black, a lot. :-\

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: Daryl on March 28, 2021, 10:49:28 PM

It's coming along nicely.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: Algae on March 29, 2021, 12:58:40 AM

Looking forward to watching this one!
Best of luck,

Al Jenkins

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: oldtravler61 on March 29, 2021, 01:30:27 AM

  Nice work...

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on March 29, 2021, 04:02:51 AM

Quote from: Daryl on March 28, 2021, 10:49:28 PM

It's coming along nicely.

Yeah, it didn't take long to figure that out.  ;D

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 02, 2021, 04:38:04 AM

Some additional pics.
(https://i.ibb.co/4dH7kZB/IMG-20210326-183312695.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wsfRtND)

(https://i.ibb.co/svC3N7Z/IMG-20210326-133028069.jpg) (https://ibb.co/99hY1P7)

(https://i.ibb.co/4Y3GfW2/IMG-20210326-175657763.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LJHWPSr)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 04, 2021, 01:03:01 AM

Hey guys, should I be trying to file out these casting marks on this lock plate?
I'm curious how much finishing should I be doing on this?

(https://i.ibb.co/cYwSNvr/IMG-20210403-180029409.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PDMv5Y6)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: rich pierce on April 04, 2021, 02:39:54 AM

Some builders do and some don’t.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 04, 2021, 03:42:57 AM

I guess it won't hurt?
I just need to decide how much I want to do. 😆

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: Daryl on April 04, 2021, 04:26:55 AM

If you decide to polish the lock, take your time. Taylor spends about 8 hours to polish a lock.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 05, 2021, 12:10:52 AM

I set my lugs and my sight today.
I also drilled for the pins, inlet the trigger and sanded and ground a bunch of stuff.  8)
(https://i.ibb.co/G7t2gJV/IMG-20210404-165517868.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7vRW7zG)

(https://i.ibb.co/3sBCRHg/IMG-20210404-170914113.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VN2qw8f)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 05, 2021, 12:24:34 AM

Getting closer.  ;D

(https://i.ibb.co/BKCFS84/IMG-20210404-171711131.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wrzjxDJ)

(https://i.ibb.co/n6KsCfZ/IMG-20210404-171724945.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q72M59X)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 05, 2021, 03:43:20 PM

Hey guys, Should the trigger guard be pinned or screwed?
Some historical examples are showing screws on the rear and pins on the front.
Some show the opposite.
The guard I have has big casting sprues on it so I could trim them down for pinning.
Should I pin it through the lock plate?
There's not a lot of room for pins on the side.

(https://i.ibb.co/GWTj9yx/IMG-20210321-205557292.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m9870kD)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: flinchrocket on April 06, 2021, 02:08:18 AM

Do you have building plans? Ryan at MBS should have some if you don't. They will show how it goes together.
If it were mine I would pin the front and the back, but I would solder a different lug on the back than what you have. At least it looks that way, things sometimes look different when you have them in your hand.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 06, 2021, 03:20:33 PM

Yeah, I talked to Ryan on the phone before ordering.
He told me it did not come with any plans.
So far I've been doing pretty well without a plan by reading and watching videos and asking questions on message boards like this one.
I have the barrel inlet, lugs and sight installed and pinned, lock and sideplate inlet and drilled and tapped, tang shaped, trigger inlet and drilled and tapped, beginning clean up of the brass furniture.
It seems like it's taken a bunch of work to get to this point. My girl is about ready to kick my butt. I was supposed to mow the yard over the weekend and I didn't even look up from this thing.  :o
I actually got it to spray some sparks yesterday so that makes me happy.  :D

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: flinchrocket on April 06, 2021, 05:19:04 PM

I am surprised that Ryan doesn't at least have a drawing. I imagine you will find triggerguards with a screw in the back and that would probably be the easiest, but in my opinion would not look as good.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: smart dog on April 06, 2021, 05:47:34 PM

Hi Folks,
It is supposed to be a French model 1733 cavalry pistol.  As such the trigger guard would normally have a cross pin mounting the front tab and 2 screws anchoring the rear extension.  The lower of those screws may also double to anchor the butt cap top plate.

dave

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 06, 2021, 06:29:41 PM

I have a drawing that I got from the rifle shoppe.
It's very cool but, it's not a plan.  8)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: flinchrocket on April 06, 2021, 10:28:36 PM

https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/_A__RARE_FRENCH_MODEL_1733_CAVALRY_OR_DRAGOON_PIST-LOT494832.aspx

This is slow but has some good photos.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: flinchrocket on April 07, 2021, 02:09:11 AM

My apologies, the pistol I saw that was pinned at the back was English.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 08, 2021, 05:02:40 AM

Thanks for the link.
Those are some good pics.
The drawing I got from the Rifle Shoppe is pretty cool.
It has some specs and measurements on it I believe.
I need to look at it again.
 8)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 09, 2021, 03:55:55 PM

Hey guys, I'm going to add some updates and ask more questions. :)
Since my last update I got the ramrod guides inlet and pinned. I sanded and shaped the ramrod a little bit.
I also shaped, inlet and pinned the trigger guard and tapped it for screws.
I also sanded on the lock and some of the brass too. Trying to get that stuff a little further along.
It may not sound like much but it took me a couple of days of working in between my job and life in general.

(https://i.ibb.co/X5pHph8/IMG-20210408-075047477.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wQCtC9s)

(https://i.ibb.co/7vwmbj4/IMG-20210409-082628126.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G7KSFnT)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 09, 2021, 03:57:27 PM

Full disclosure here: I cut the front lug on my trigger guard a little shorter than I wished I had.  :P

Anyway, I must persevere so I drilled a bit low but as high as I could to keep the pin behind the lock plate and side plate.
My first shot was a bit too high and I just grazed the top of my lug.
So I tried again and went a little down to the side and shot at a bit of an angle and managed to get it in a decent spot.
After that I actually sanded a toothpick down until I could soak it in some titebond III and push it through the bad hole as a plug.
You live and learn, right? I'll know better next time.  :D

(https://i.ibb.co/vq02QJz/IMG-20210409-083436491.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JtDXyzk)

(https://i.ibb.co/fxS14hc/IMG-20210409-083450431.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KrG0FM1)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 09, 2021, 03:58:32 PM

Next project is going to be the butt cap I guess.
My first question is: Should I inlet this thing like Martin Houston does in his video series or should I do it by annealing the stirrups and bending them out?
I'm going to look around and do some research before I start but I thought I would ask you guys here first.
You have been very kind and helpful so far.

(https://i.ibb.co/BjxJFSK/IMG-20210409-080643825.jpg) (https://ibb.co/y51C7bB)

(https://i.ibb.co/WtL6FT5/IMG-20210409-080652236.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YZx38rQ)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 09, 2021, 04:06:09 PM

Also, I'd like to have a belt hook on this thing.
I have to say that I'm not 100% pleased with the looks of the belt hook that I got with this kit from MBS.
I've seen others out there from different retailers.
I've seen some good ideas on a home made one too.
What do you guys think about this?  :-\

(https://i.ibb.co/LhS57fZ/IMG-20210409-080518140.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YT2ZsGL)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 12, 2021, 03:58:46 AM

Well, I got some more work done on this thing today.
Still a ways to go yet but, here's some pics of it mostly assembled.  :D

(https://i.ibb.co/CtgXsNW/IMG-20210411-201639591.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cv0pXMx)

(https://i.ibb.co/5Bbv0q1/IMG-20210411-201624065.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D50kJ31)

(https://i.ibb.co/0rVvXbr/IMG-20210411-201720222.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m4FgBW4)

(https://i.ibb.co/fpxBDjk/IMG-20210411-201740005.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0MG8sHC)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on April 12, 2021, 09:41:55 PM

I do not think that the belt hook is supposed to support the weight of the pistol.  It is meant to stop the gun from dropping further down past your belt or sash.  The belt or sash does most of the work of holding the gun in place.  The pistol goes between your body and the sash, hook on the outside.

Think of your folding knife that you carry INSIDE your pocket, with the clasp on the outside.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 12, 2021, 11:32:48 PM

Thanks for the info.
I have been trying to do research as I go along. 8)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: Big Bubba on April 13, 2021, 01:25:57 AM

Looking good. I've been following your post closely. I would like to build a pistol for my next project.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 13, 2021, 11:22:30 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/3r7Xcg2/IMG-20210412-093533939.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C1zdQRg)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: BillF/TRF on April 14, 2021, 05:44:07 PM

Nice job on the fit of your metal parts to the stock. The butt cap appears to have some gap to the wood but that could just be shadows.  When I was fitting my English Pistol butt cap (much simpler than your stirrups with only one large extension at the rear of the cap) I carefully took off wood from the "hump" of wood at the bottom by use of inletting black which moved the cap up until the gaps disappeared. I'll send you some pics of the stain and finish I used on my pistol   just to give you some ideas.   Bill

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 22, 2021, 07:48:30 PM

Here is a pic of my first coat of oil.  :D


(https://i.ibb.co/xjFF9Pw/IMG-20210421-082107833.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pzhhVGN)

(https://i.ibb.co/bmKRRRw/IMG-20210421-082119819.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZXM1114)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 24, 2021, 06:00:04 PM

Mock up.  ;D


(https://i.ibb.co/N7t5rxF/IMG-20210424-085519435.jpg) (https://ibb.co/52GmkT1)

(https://i.ibb.co/jRTQbNq/IMG-20210424-085606413.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pyxMb7N)

(https://i.ibb.co/mz6sqPJ/IMG-20210424-085636768-HDR.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5cBD8JT)

(https://i.ibb.co/Svr2cxr/IMG-20210424-085658600.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kc1pJy1)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: Daryl on April 24, 2021, 09:21:43 PM

Very good indeed, for a first effort macrOw. Well done.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: alyce-james on April 24, 2021, 09:55:02 PM

macr0w. Sir, very fine job, well executed craftsmanship for your first attempt. Looking forward to you future builds. Have a great week end. Thanks for sharing. AJ.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 25, 2021, 05:38:02 AM

Thanks guys.
I have actually removed that belt hook since that pic was taken.
I'm going to replace it with this one.
I'm currently shaping and sanding it some before it gets polished.


(https://i.ibb.co/S6jTRvg/IMG-20210424-193938979-HDR.jpg) (https://ibb.co/p17DJXT)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 26, 2021, 09:51:56 PM

Hey guys, I thought I would tack this on in my pistol build thread.
Last weekend my girl took her kids and went to stay a couple of days in Asheville NC.
While she was there they went shopping around like tourists do. She was browsing around in some antique store and sent me a pic of a horn.
She asked if I wanted it. I said "pass. save your money". I wasn't really interested.
But, of course they way my baby is she bought it anyway.
So you know I had to change my tune once I saw it.
It's not old or anything I don't think but, it has some cool, primitive carving on it.
After wiping some inlet black on it and sanding and polishing it down I thought it looked pretty cool.
I made a butt cap and a stopper for it out of my scrap bin but after messing around with it I decided I wasn't happy with them.
So I pulled them out and I am making another cap and stopper set for it.
The stopper is just about finished. I carried the design from the horn to the stopper.
I had another nice piece of walnut in my scrap bin so I cut a couple of circles and joined and glued them up.
I used the nice curly piece for the top and a piece that was more straight grain for the base.
The one tool I don't have is a wood lathe. I have almost bought one many times but alas...
I'm going to take it to a friends shop sometime soon and turn it down with a nice dome on top.
Stay tuned for pics of that.
Anyway, here's what I have so far.  :D


(https://i.ibb.co/j8nYjWm/received-486862322365837.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rQDhXcY)

(https://i.ibb.co/9ZW9Wsj/received-596146734652861.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PDgZgw8)

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(https://i.ibb.co/fksn1Xm/IMG-20210426-132137605.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x1NfC2V)

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(https://i.ibb.co/SVFGq7S/IMG-20210426-132215711.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mhfgQFp)


(https://i.ibb.co/Jct2xV2/IMG-20210426-101727414.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yNP5ht5)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 27, 2021, 10:43:45 PM

So it looks like this is the final assembly.
I'm sure you guys are excited to see me stop posting.
Anyway! here goes.
(https://i.ibb.co/Ny8FYjY/IMG-20210427-100236057.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jrc84M4)

(https://i.ibb.co/rws0qTx/IMG-20210427-101258150-HDR.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qr5jhXN)

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(https://i.ibb.co/6YpzQzG/IMG-20210427-143909657-HDR.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PxbKkKJ)

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Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 27, 2021, 10:45:23 PM

It's not perfect but I've had Mr. Teach keeping me straight.  8)


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Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: Big Bubba on April 27, 2021, 10:48:25 PM

Looking good! Great job.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 29, 2021, 09:10:17 PM

Thanks for all the help guys.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: smart dog on April 29, 2021, 11:16:58 PM

Quote from: macr0w on April 27, 2021, 10:45:23 PM

It's not perfect but I've had Mr. Teach keeping me straight.  8)


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My Macrow,
That would be me.

dave

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 29, 2021, 11:51:50 PM

Quote from: smart dog on April 29, 2021, 11:16:58 PM

My Macrow,
That would be me.

dave

Dave, you are the freaking man.
You've definitely supplied me with the most useful information.
I appreciate you.  8)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: gunmaker on April 30, 2021, 07:20:36 AM

Shots Fired ?

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on April 30, 2021, 03:55:51 PM

Quote from: gunmaker on April 30, 2021, 07:20:36 AM

Shots Fired ?

I got a few blank loads fired off.
Not super reliable I would say.
Not a big shower of sparks. I tried cleaning the frizzen with alcohol.
It worked maybe 5 times out of 40+ trigger pulls.
Are there any tricks or things that I can look at to make this more reliable?  ;D

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: Big Bubba on April 30, 2021, 04:15:49 PM

You could try flipping the flint so the bevel is opposite (been up/bevel down).

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: Daryl on April 30, 2021, 08:01:25 PM

macr0w - it appears you still have that tiny vent hole.  With a plain drilled vent - no liner, the went hole will likely need to be larger.
I would suggest at least .070" & I think 1/10" would not be out of line.

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on May 01, 2021, 01:22:14 AM

Quote from: Daryl on April 30, 2021, 08:01:25 PM

macr0w - it appears you still have that tiny vent hole.  With a plain drilled vent - no liner, the went hole will likely need to be larger.
I would suggest at least .070" & I think 1/10" would not be out of line.

Yeah, the hole is tiny.
I wondered about that but, I'm in-experienced with these things so I don't know any better.  :)

Title: Re: First Build Ever
Post by: macr0w on May 19, 2021, 04:25:43 PM

Okay guys, I'm really done this time.
I took this thing apart and did a little more carving around my lock and side plate.
I defined a few lines a little better.
I filed my pins down a little bit for a better fit.
I slightly beveled my side plate on the rear point to match my lock plate.
I reset my butt cap and re-drilled the pin that holds the retainer for a tighter fit.
I thoroughly cleaned the barrel and all the other metal parts.
Then I sanded and refinished the stock again.
This is how it will look for the foreseeable future.
Put a fork in it.  :P

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