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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: Sequatchie Rifle on September 06, 2009, 05:40:48 AM

Title: ALR Virtual LibraRifles by Unknown Makers - Iron Furniture Topic: S.G. 090414-1
Post by: Sequatchie Rifle on September 06, 2009, 05:40:48 AM

I was looking at this fine Iron Mounted gun marked S.G.  Isn't it a Sam Glover gun from East Tennessee?

Title: Re: ALR Virtual LibraRifles by Unknown Makers - Iron Furniture Topic: S.G. 090414-1
Post by: Ken G on September 06, 2009, 05:29:26 PM

Yes, Sullivan county in upper E. TN


(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/Packdog1/General/ETN_gunsmiths.jpg)

Title: Re: ALR Virtual LibraRifles by Unknown Makers - Iron Furniture Topic: S.G. 090414-1
Post by: nord on September 06, 2009, 09:55:42 PM

Please confirm and I'll add it to the database. I'll also move the rifle to known makers.

Thanks,

B

Title: Re: ALR Virtual LibraRifles by Unknown Makers - Iron Furniture Topic: S.G. 090414-1
Post by: Ken G on September 06, 2009, 10:48:19 PM

Nord,
I don't know that S.G. is in fact Samuel Glover.  Only that Samuel Glover built guns in Sullivan county.  I think we have discussed this before with no clear conclusion.

From Jerry Nobles Vol. 1.
"S. G." Steve Gibson.  Born in 1812, died in 1860. Sevier County, TN.  Grandfather of Wiley Gibson.     


Ken

Title: Re: ALR Virtual LibraRifles by Unknown Makers - Iron Furniture Topic: S.G. 090414-1
Post by: Sequatchie Rifle on September 13, 2009, 10:06:11 PM

So what's the conclusion?  I was interested as saw a rifle a few weeks ago similarly marked and was told that it was built by a Glover and the family who had the rifle was from Roane County.

Title: Re: ALR Virtual LibraRifles by Unknown Makers - Iron Furniture Topic: S.G. 090414-1
Post by: SGTCOFFEE on August 30, 2011, 03:35:26 AM

Hello all, I must admit that I am not a collector but I do have interest in these rifles.
I have a small problem that I was hoping some one on this forum could help me with.

I have been researching my family tree for the past 4 years and I found out that my GGGG grand dad was a Gunsmith in Cannon county Tenn. and did some business in Coffee county.
In my research I found a petition to the   the U.S. for reimbursement for some hogs that where killed by union soldiers.
It was denied dew to the fact that he had made rifles for the CSA !

I would like to know if any of you on this forum has any info on him or sons or his Father or the rifles they made for the CSA!
His name was James L. Cawthron or James L. Cawthan he was in Cannon county Tenn. during the whole of the civil war.

Any info would be nice to help me out with this puzzle.

If I put this in the wrong place I am sorry , but it did seem like a good place to put this post.
Thank you,
SGTCOFFEE

P.S. My cousin in Tenn. says he and his rifles have mention in this book : Confederate Rifles & Muskets
Infantry small Arms
Manufactured 1861-1865
By John M. Murphy and Howard Michael Madaus

Title: Re: ALR Virtual LibraRifles by Unknown Makers - Iron Furniture Topic: S.G. 090414-1
Post by: oakridge on August 30, 2011, 07:57:44 AM

SGTCOFFEE,

According to Murphy and Madaus,s book (which you mentioned), James L Cauthorn & Co. delivered a minimum of 71 rifles under contract to the state of Tennessee between December, 1861 and February, 1862. These were listed as "Harper's Ferry" rifles, with four described as "Miss. Rifles".

James L. Cauthorn appears in 1850 census of manufactures in Tennessee with five employees and an annual product of 80 rifles valued at $1700.00.

James L Cauthorn also appears as a gunsmith in the 1860 census of Cannon County, Tenn.

Title: Re: ALR Virtual LibraRifles by Unknown Makers - Iron Furniture Topic: S.G. 090414-1
Post by: oakridge on August 30, 2011, 08:08:46 AM

Oops! Sorry. I just realized my response was completely off topic. Has nothing to do with the subject of this thread. Just trying to give SGTCOFFEE a little information he requested.